Totenkopfverbände watch
Re: Totenkopfverbände watch
I might forgive "ignorance" about an "unusual" clock or watch......but anyone who "seriously" believes in a Conspiracy Theory surpressing an imagined "5 year" SS Long Service medal,.... and says there's no such thing as a SS 4 Year medal.....and is convinced only he (and a couple others) knows the truth....that every reference book and written regulation has been faked!.... That every example "out there" is a modern Chinese repros.!.... well, it's not worth discussion IMO.
I don't believe in "locking" a thread until a "certian point" is reached....usually when things become too personal or insulting....but I'll leave that up to William. I had reached my limit the last time we played this game. :roll:
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I don't believe in "locking" a thread until a "certian point" is reached....usually when things become too personal or insulting....but I'll leave that up to William. I had reached my limit the last time we played this game. :roll:
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Re: Totenkopfverbände watch
Time to lock this thread.Noticed he is searching an older *clock* thread,digging up old wounds so to speak
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Re: Totenkopfverbände watch
Lets just keep this thread on the pocket watch, as this is all i had intended on discussing in the begining of the thread.
on the 4 year service medal, i am not going to go into details, if it existed or not, i am just stating fact, that no one has ever seen or has a photo of one in wear, the one which i have, with a roman neumeral V in red enamel, the swords and olive branches, is all i can say, in my book is more convincing to me.
The other thread on the nazi clock was not started by me, i simply asked the owner to provide a reverse photo, for reference, so i could compare it with my clock.
on the 4 year service medal, i am not going to go into details, if it existed or not, i am just stating fact, that no one has ever seen or has a photo of one in wear, the one which i have, with a roman neumeral V in red enamel, the swords and olive branches, is all i can say, in my book is more convincing to me.
The other thread on the nazi clock was not started by me, i simply asked the owner to provide a reverse photo, for reference, so i could compare it with my clock.
Re: Totenkopfverbände watch
The claims about the 5 (!) year service medal for the SS a thread of its own at http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=184857
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Can we please keep this thread to just discuss the pocket watch, it is a very historical piece and deserves, to be looked at in detail, without sidetracking, on service medals, etc
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Yes, let's stick to the pocket watch.Eireneutral wrote:Can we please keep this thread to just discuss the pocket watch, it is a very historical piece and deserves, to be looked at in detail, without sidetracking, on service medals, etc
Altered post 1945 - end of discussion.
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What does altered post 1945 mean?
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It means that it had fake decals added after 1945. The actual watch is authentic pre 1945 manufacture, the decals are not; they are post-war applied to fool uninformed collectors into buying an antique clock that had NOTHING to do with the Third Reich.Eireneutral wrote:What does altered post 1945 mean?
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What gives you that impression?
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Because the decals are fake and from a model building kit. You can get the any old watch you want and slap a "Nazi" decal from a model kit on it and you'll fool a rookie collector into buying a piece of garbage and buying into the false hope that it may be authentic.Eireneutral wrote:What gives you that impression?
Here, let me show you some of the other styles of decals they add to other "period" watches.
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Ha ha, nice trick.! Thanks for those examples William. Regards mark.
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William is correct, these decals are junk. A common faker's trick.
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Re: Totenkopfverbände watch
mine must be the first time that the totenkop decal has appeared on a watch then
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moderators please lock this thread, nothing of value can be added now...!
by now, I guess even Eireneutral must have taken a point..but he has not ....
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by now, I guess even Eireneutral must have taken a point..but he has not ....
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Is that all you guys ever say on this forum, why are you all so into locking threads on historyXavier wrote:moderators please lock this thread, nothing of value can be added now...!
by now, I guess even Eireneutral must have taken a point..but he has not ....
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