Is this USA Army Airborne look legit, or put together

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Is this USA Army Airborne look legit, or put together

Post by Mark in Cleveland, Tn. » 25 Mar 2021 22:44

Please look at all pics carefully, does the Ike make sense? REibbon Bar, the 3 stars on oval, the 3 different SSI's and the collar discs? Is the one on right an Engeneers? or HQ? Be detailed p[lease. I kind of called it out on a FB group as weird
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Post by Richard Anderson » 26 Mar 2021 01:51

Well...82d A/B and 17th A/B and First AAA and Glider and Engineer with two Campaign Stars and four Combat Jump Stars?

Fake? Not a chance...
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Re: Is this USA Army Airborne look legit, or put together

Post by Mark in Cleveland, Tn. » 26 Mar 2021 01:59

Richard Anderson wrote:
26 Mar 2021 01:51
Well...82d A/B and 17th A/B and First AAA and Glider and Engineer with two Campaign Stars and four Combat Jump Stars?

Fake? Not a chance...
Thata what I told those piossasser over on the FB group SSI and insignia, and got jumped on by that piss Don Boyle and his buddies as genuine Yes, that Don Boyle..Any other opinions

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Re: Is this USA Army Airborne look legit, or put together

Post by Mark in Cleveland, Tn. » 26 Mar 2021 02:00

Does thosae ribbon bars make any sense?

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Post by Richard Anderson » 26 Mar 2021 02:57

Mark in Cleveland, Tn. wrote:
26 Mar 2021 02:00
Does thosae ribbon bars make any sense?
They aren't in correct order of precedence, but that was probably typical for those that did not stay in service.

First is the European African Middle-East Campaign bar with two campaign stars. How does that work if he made four combat jumps? Sicily, Normandy, Holland, and the Rhine? That is at least four Campaign Stars (Sicily, Normandy, Rhineland, and Central Europe). My Dad, landing in Normandy 14 June, was authorized five - Normandy, Northern France, Ardennes-Alsace, Rhineland, and Central Europe.

Second is the Purple Heart, which should be before the EAME. Okay, so he was wounded, which may explain why he only has two Campaign Stars, but still doesn't fit with four combat jumps.

Third is the American Defense Service, which also should be before the EAME. It's pretty unusual, since it denotes service prior to 7 December 1941.

Fourth is the Good Conduct, which should be before both the EAME and the ADS.

The last I can't place, probably a brain fart.

I would expect to see the World War II Victory Medal.

All in all odd, but not impossible.
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Post by Sid Guttridge » 26 Mar 2021 08:40

Hi Guys,

As an under-festooned Brit, what is all the shoulder lanyarding for?

The last ribbon would appear to be the Certificate of Merit, which was apparently last presented in 1919: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certifica ... erit_Medal

It looks as though this guy would have been at least 40 when US airborne forces were first formed!

If so, and he really existed, he should be pretty easy to identify.

Cheers,

Sid.

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Re: Is this USA Army Airborne look legit, or put together

Post by LineDoggie » 27 Mar 2021 01:48

17th Airborne made 1 combat parachute jump (Wesel) in ww2 so 4 on his wings would be highly suspect unless he came from the 82nd to 1st AA or 17th

A right sleeve 17th would typically be the former (combat) unit. At the end of the war many low point men were transferred to the 82nd from other Abn units not the other way round. During the NYC parade you see many men who served in 17th and 101st among the long time 82nd men.


Check the jacket for a laundry mark

ex C-2377 which could be used to trace the owner by letter and last 4 of Serial number
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Re: Is this USA Army Airborne look legit, or put together

Post by Empiricist » 18 Aug 2021 13:50

Jeez, what a Christmas Tree! Fake like the devil! Forumers above summed it up very well. Two Belgian Croix de Guerre fourragères are very funny as well. The Soviet Герой Советского Союза medal is still missing.

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