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Dagger SA request

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Post by Tomo1981 » 21 Nov 2021, 19:35

I am asking for help and opinions on this sword. Is it original, I think the handle is a copy, best regards
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Post by von thoma » 21 Nov 2021, 23:37

Is it original, I think the handle is a copy, best regards
Why do you think that ?


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Post by Tomo1981 » 21 Nov 2021, 23:52

Today I bought it occasionally and I don't know if everything is ok with it

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Post by Tomo1981 » 21 Nov 2021, 23:53

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Post by von thoma » 22 Nov 2021, 00:19

Hello ;

I don't see problems with your SA Dagger, it's an early SA model, marked on blade ( Hammesfahr Cie, Solingen ).

I never saw this maker mark until today. A good sample.
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Post by Tomo1981 » 22 Nov 2021, 01:23

Ok thanks

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Post by Hans1906 » 22 Nov 2021, 14:44

Tomo1981, welcome to the Militaria section of the AHF. :welcome:

Thanks for sharing your photos of this Gottlieb Hammesfahr SA-Sturmabteilung "Dolch" / Dagger from the Solingen production.

Google photo search for "hammesfahr solingen": https://www.google.com/search?q=hammesf ... =759&dpr=1

Hammesfahr / Solingen: http://www.solingen-internet.de/si-hgw/hammesfahr.htm

I personally have only seen a few examples of similar SA-Sturmabteilung and NPEA-Nationalpolitische Erziehungsanstalten daggers with the "Schwimmer" ("Swimmer") manufacturer brand from the Hammesfahr / Solingen manufacturing company.

My grandparents bought a twelve piece everyday cutlery set in the late 1940's with the typical Hammesfahr "Pyramide" symbol and the typical "Nirosta" stamping of the time.
Excellent quality, used until the 1990s in everyday use, and donated to a local welfare organisation later, the set is still in everyday use nowadays.
Grandparents only bought "Solingen Made" products, they did not want to waste money for cheap crap, typical germans... :lol:

For Sundays and holidays the family used cutlery manufactured by "WMF", never for everyday use.

* Herr von thoma is right, nice and rare find, congratulations! :)


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Post by Tomo1981 » 22 Nov 2021, 16:59

Thanks

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Post by Hans1906 » 22 Nov 2021, 17:58

Thank you very much for your comprehensive reply, I wish you continued success in your collecting passion. :lol:


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Post by Colonel666 » 22 Jan 2022, 05:02

The grip plates are correct wood. They show the age for sure. There were only a few machines to this day, throughout the world, with tooling able to make those.

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Post by Dwight Pruitt » 31 Jan 2022, 18:19

The Hammesfahr "swimmer" trademark is a fairly scarce maker of SA daggers. Nice piece The company is Otto Hammesfahr Cie.

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