OOB chinese armies in Ichi Go

[Mircea-Iulian]

Is there any OOB of the both sides during the summer of 1944(Operation Ichi Go)?? Thanks to all

Cheers

[Edward Chen]

See this previous thread for general OOB:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 1&t=131064

Hope this helps, and Best Regards

[Mircea-Iulian]

Thank you Edward Chen, although not complete, the list is helpful.

Bestt Regards

[Mircea-Iulian]

What about the OOB of Y Force in summer of 1944?
Thanks to all

Cheers

[Edward Chen]

This is the OOB for the China Expeditionary Army aka Y-Force, as of May 1944.

It appears as Table 4 on page 263 in volume 9 of the 10-volume series "Kang Ri Yu Wu" [抗戰禦侮], an abridged official history of the War of Resistance published by the Republic of China Ministry of Defence through the Tri-service Military University Historical Research Center (chaired by the late General Chiang Wei-kuo, adopted son of Chiang Kai-shek), in 1977.
As such, I consider it more dependable than Hsu and Chang's single volume "History of the Sino-Japanese War," since it contains the original names of people, places and units in Chinese, which may be incorrectly Romanized into English (especially using the Wade-Giles system).

Note that, typical of Chinese campaign OOB's, ranks are not listed.
Other sources need to be consulted to find individual division organic units, as they are not given in this series.

Hope this helps, and Best Regards,

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Chinese Expeditionary Forces in the Northern Burma-Western Yunnan Campaign [緬北滇西作戰中國遠征軍] (May 1944)
Commander: 陳誠 Ch'en Ch'eng (initially); later 衛立煌 Wei Li-huang
Deputy C.O.: 黃琪翔 Huang Ch'i-hsiang
Chief-of-Staff 蕭毅肅 Hsiao I-su

- 20th Group Army: C.O. 霍揆章 Huo Kuei-chang; Deputy C.O. 方天 Fang T'ien
-- 53rd Corps: 周福成 Chou Fu-ch'eng
--- 116th Division: 趙鎮藩 Chao Chen-fan
--- 130th Division: 張玉廷 Chang Yu-t'ing
--- Transport Regiment: 劉寶華 Liu Pao-hua
-- 54th Corps: 方天 Fang T'ien
--- 36th Division 李志鵬 Li Hung-p'eng
--- 198th Division 葉佩高 Yeh P'ei-kao
-- 3rd Battalion/49th Anti-Aircraft Artillery Regiment
-- 6th Mountain Artillery (Pack Howitzer) Battalion
-- Transport Regiment 雷震玻 Lei Chen-po
-- 2nd Engineer Regiment 林松 Lin Sung
-- 24th Independent Engineer Battalion
-- 6x platoons telephone signals troops
-- 4x sections wireless signals troops

- 11th Group Army: C.O. 宋希濂 Sung Hsi-lien; Acting C.O. 黃杰 Huang Chieh
-- 71st Corps 鍾彬 Chung Pin
--- 87th Division 張紹勛 Chang Shao-hsun
--- 88th Division 胡家驥 Hu Chia-chi
--- New 28th Division 劉又軍 Liu Yu-chün
--- Transport Regiment 吳燾 Wu T'ao
-- 2nd Corps 王凌雲 Wang Ling-yun
--- 76th Division 夏德貴 Hsia Teh-kui
--- 9th Division 張金廷 Chang Chin-t'ing
--- New 33rd Division 楊寶毅 Yang Pao-i
--- Transport Regiment 段壽濤 Tuan Shou-t'ao
-- 6th Corps: 黃杰 Huang Chieh (initially); 史宏烈 Shih Hung-lieh (later)
--- 2nd Reserve Division 顧葆裕 Ku Pao-yu
--- New 39th Division 洪行 Hung Hsing
--- Antitank Battalion 梁中介 Liang Chung-chieh
--- Signals Battalion 馮行之 Feng Hsing-chih
--- Transport Regiment 鄭殿起 Cheng Tian-ch'i
-- 200th Division 高吉人 Kao Chi-jen
-- 5th Corps Artillery Battalion

(Directly subordinate to China Expeditionary Army)
- 8th Corps 何紹周 Ho Shao-chou
-- 1st Honor Division 汪玻 Wang Po
-- 82nd Division 王伯勳 Wang Po-hsun
-- 103rd Division 熊綬春 Hsiung Shou-chun
-- 93rd Division 呂國銓 Lü Kuo-ch'uan
- Artillery Command 邵百昌 Shao Pai-chang
-- 7th Arty Regiment 呂欽黃 Lü Ch'in-huang
-- 10th Arty Regiment 胡克先 Hu K'o-hsien
-- 2nd Hvy Mortar Regiment 廖治民 Liao Chih-min
- Engineer Command 傅克軍 Fu K'o-chün
- Signals battalion
- Yunnan-Tibet-Burma Special Guerilla Command 鄭波 Cheng Po

U.S. Army Air Force 14th Air Force: Claire Chennault
2x bomber groups
3x fighter groups

[Mircea-Iulian]

Thank you very much for the excellent post Edward Chen.
I have a little question
What is the difference(equipment, trainning) between a New Divison and simple Division (eg. New 28th Division and 88th Division) The different naming implies a different quality of the troops?

[Leonard]

>>>What is the difference(equipment, trainning) between a New Divison and simple Division (eg. New 28th Division and 88th Division) The different naming implies a different quality of the troops?

No, the different naming was partly due to the tradition not to name a division number in exceed of 200 (the 200th was a mechanized division). This tradition was broken with the divisions of the Youth Army (201-207D). Another reason they were called "new" is because they have no historical connection with any existing division. The "new" division can range from very good to very bad. Some, like the N28D are made up of security force with little training. Other, like the New 38th Division, was an elite unit, specially trained by Sun Li-Ren. Similarly, for army, there was the communist New 4th Army.

There were also the "temporary" and "reserved" KMT divisons. The former are usually for guerrilla, militia, or even reorganized bandits or puppet units. The later were usually for units in training.