chinese artillery in 1931-1945

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Re: chinese artillery in 1931-1945

Post by Akira Takizawa » 25 Feb 2013 12:56

> Thanks a lot! However, should the "14 Type 31 Mountain Guns" be Type 41 mountain guns?

No, they are Type 31. 14 Type 31 Mountain Guns were exported besides 331 Type 31 Field Guns and Mountain Guns.

> Did the Japanese resume exportation of artillery to China after the "unification" of China was completed in 1930? I have read some Chinese accounts saying that some Type 38 Kai were sold to China "just before the Manchurian Incident". Is this possible?

In 1930, the Japanese received an order of 12 Type 38 Kai from China. But, I cannot cofirm if they were actually exported. So, they are not included in my list.

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Re: chinese artillery in 1931-1945

Post by YC Chen » 26 Feb 2013 13:11

Hmm... Could you please explain why you listed this separately? Were they sold to a different military factor, or at a different date with those bulk of delivery?

Thank you for providing the info on the order of Type 38 Kai. Do you have detailed info on who ordered them, Chiang Kai-shek's central government or someone in the North?

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Re: chinese artillery in 1931-1945

Post by Akira Takizawa » 26 Feb 2013 16:00

> Could you please explain why you listed this separately? Were they sold to a different military factor, or at a different date with those bulk of delivery?

14 Type 31 Mountain Guns are in 1917-18 and 331 Type 31 Field Guns and Mountain Guns are the total before then.

> Do you have detailed info on who ordered them, Chiang Kai-shek's central government or someone in the North?

宋子文 ordered them.

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Re: chinese artillery in 1931-1945

Post by YC Chen » 28 Feb 2013 05:14

Thank you very much for these information! One final question, what's your source for the infomation on China's order of Type 38 Kai?

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Re: chinese artillery in 1931-1945

Post by Akira Takizawa » 28 Feb 2013 06:50

YC Chen wrote:One final question, what's your source for the infomation on China's order of Type 38 Kai?
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4946515135/

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Re: chinese artillery in 1931-1945

Post by YC Chen » 01 Mar 2013 11:44

Thanks. Much appreciate.

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76 mm Soviet AA guns in Chinese service

Post by ain92 » 08 Nov 2013 22:51

Hello all.
In the end of 1937 USSR shipped to China five 76-mm four-piece anti-aircraft batteries, four AA searchlight stations and two sound-listening devices. As far as the batteries were equipped with PUAZO-1 anti-aircraft fire directors, I suppose that the guns were Models of 1931 aka 3-K. Is anything known about their lot?
With best regards, Ilya.

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Re: chinese artillery in 1931-1945

Post by YC Chen » 12 Nov 2013 10:17

I have been going through some documents in order to give a proper answer to your question, but I'm too busy now to get all the information organized. So please be patient. :wink:

As for the last fate of these guns, I know that 4 of them were still deployed by the Nationalist to protect the Yumen oil field in Xinjiang in late 1949. The KMT Authorities ordered them to fire at the oil wells in order to prevent them from falling into Communist hands, but the PLA troops arrived just in time to stop this. This is the last account I know of Nationalist 76mm AA guns.

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Re: chinese artillery in 1931-1945

Post by Jay Felsberg » 26 Feb 2014 22:26

when were the german guns supplied?

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