Sino-Soviet Border Clash 1929

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Re: Sino-Soviet Border Clash 1929

Post by YC Chen » 01 Sep 2012 13:52

Hello,
Thank you very much, I have received the page 1. The problem lies with my mailbox - your e-mails have been put into the junkbox, and the e-mails in the junkbox will be automatically deleted if it went unread for more than 24 hours so I didn't see your first e-mail.

Now I have fixed the problem, and you can mail me the next 8 pages as a whole.

P.S. Could you please translate the captions of the photos in the article? I can find a friend to translate the whole article for me later, but I'm eager to know what the photos are about. I can also send you two Chinese articles about the warships of Manchurian navy and river flotilla before 1931 which I think you will be interested in.

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Re: Sino-Soviet Border Clash 1929

Post by sarhang » 01 Sep 2012 18:58

I have sent you the remaining pages as attachments to one mailing.
As for the captions, I will translate them and mail to you tomorrow.
Yes, the articles you mention would be of much interest to me.

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Re: Sino-Soviet Border Clash 1929

Post by YC Chen » 02 Sep 2012 12:40

sarhang wrote:I have sent you the remaining pages as attachments to one mailing.
As for the captions, I will translate them and mail to you tomorrow.
Yes, the articles you mention would be of much interest to me.
I have received your e-mail with all eight pages. Thank you very much!
I don't have a scanner so I can only send you the photographed version of the two article I mentioned. Maybe I can send them to you next week, I'm too busy these days.

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Re: Sino-Soviet Border Clash 1929

Post by sarhang » 02 Sep 2012 18:53

I have mailed you the translations

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Re: Sino-Soviet Border Clash 1929

Post by tupamaro » 10 Oct 2012 13:09

Does anybody have any maps of this conflict?

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Re: Sino-Soviet Border Clash 1929

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Re: Sino-Soviet Border Clash 1929

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Re: Sino-Soviet Border Clash 1929

Post by YC Chen » 13 Feb 2014 14:21

Wow the photo showing the gun carriage on White Russian armored train in China is wonderful!!! The clearest photo showing interior detail of White Russian armored trains I have ever seen! :D

As for the photos showing Soviet tanks and armored train, I think the western media just copied some photos from Russian Civil War period and these are definitely not the type of weapons used during the 1929 conflict.

PS: Can anyone identify the guns used on the White Russian armored train? I don't think they look like the common Krupp-type 7.5cm field guns.

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Re: Sino-Soviet Border Clash 1929

Post by AVV » 13 Feb 2014 16:00

Hello!
YC Chen wrote: Can anyone identify the guns used on the White Russian armored train? I don't think they look like the common Krupp-type 7.5cm field guns.
I'd say they are Skoda 10 cm Gebirgshaubitze M.16.
http://landships.info/landships/artille ... H_m16.html

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Re: Sino-Soviet Border Clash 1929

Post by YC Chen » 14 Feb 2014 02:59

I think they are different. In the gun on the armored train, the barrel protrudes quite a lot in front of the recuperator.

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Re: Sino-Soviet Border Clash 1929

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Re: Sino-Soviet Border Clash 1929

Post by 1929student » 13 Jan 2017 22:05

New (first?) book in English out on this conflict:

The 1929 Sino-Soviet War: The War Nobody Knew (Michael M Walker)

Reviews:

“In telling the story of the Sino-Soviet conflict, Walker takes a wide-ranging approach that encompasses international politics of the region between China, Japan, and the USSR while simultaneously providing a wealth of detail on the domestic politics affecting decision-making. The military aspects of the war are equally thoroughly documented from the quality of leadership, to the tactics and technology that determined the outcome. This work will be the standard for a long time to come.”—Roger R. Reese, author of Why Stalin’s Soldiers Fought: The Red Army’s Military Effectiveness in World War II

“Long overlooked as inconsequential, the 1929 Sino-Soviet War in fact had profound implications for China, Japan, the Soviet Union and the international order in East Asia. Drawing upon trends in international and world history, Michael M. Walker breathes new life into the study of this war, offering a fluid narrative and detailed analysis of the political, military, and diplomatic aspects of the conflict. In doing so, he reveals the complexity and consequence of ‘the war nobody knew.’“—Peter Worthing, author of General He Yingqin: The Rise and Fall of Nationalist China

“This unprecedented, credible, and interesting study of the twentieth century’s most obscure war highlights the complexity inherent in the prolonged struggle for political dominance in northeastern Asia.” —David M. Glantz, author of The Stalingrad Trilogy

“The 1929 Sino-Soviet war over control of the Chinese Eastern Railway in Manchuria is perhaps the least studied 20th century conflict even while being one of the most important. As detailed by Michael Walker in his ground-breaking monograph, one immediate result of China’s defeat was Japan’s 1931 invasion of Manchuria, and its creation the next year of the Manchukuo puppet state, widely seen as the opening salvo in the Pacific War.”—Bruce Elleman, William V. Pratt Professor of International History US Naval War College

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Re: Sino-Soviet Border Clash 1929

Post by Stephen_Rynerson » 14 Jan 2017 06:39

Ah, excellent! I corresponded with you about this book years ago and I had wondered if it was ever actually going to be published. Thank you very much for bringing it to our attention; I will pre-order it immediately!

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