Colours of the cv33 in chinese army use?

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Colours of the cv33 in chinese army use?

Post by Lance Naik » 15 Oct 2015 16:27

Somebody could help me with the colours used on the Cv 33 tanks by the chinese army?.
I have made some research on this theme, but as I am not fluent in the chinese o japanese idioms, I feel that there is something that I don´t grasp.
The black and white photos I have found are so poor in quality that the posible colours goes from the brick red, to the sand colour, the forest Green, and camouflages made using two or three of previously cited colours.
Camouflages in brick red and dark Green could be posible like the ones used by the CTV in the Spanish Civil War, but in a very publicized photo of a cv33 with Chiang Kai-shek, the colours looks more like sand and Green, as some t26 in chinese use appeared in a profile in Zaloga´s book "Tank battles in the pacific war".

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Re: Colours of the cv33 in chinese army use?

Post by xingbake » 16 Oct 2015 09:26

Here is the CV33 at China Military Museum in Beijing. Not sure if it's original painting. But from the original black & white picture it seems there was no camoulfages on it.

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Re: Colours of the cv33 in chinese army use?

Post by Lance Naik » 16 Oct 2015 15:49

Yes, but in some photos , (maybe 200th div),cv33s are painted in a mixed camouflage scheme of a light colour and a darker one



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Re: Colours of the cv33 in chinese army use?

Post by Lance Naik » 16 Oct 2015 15:52

Here, you could see more clearly a bitone cv33

http://www.ww2incolor.com/chinese-force ... 2_001.html

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Re: Colours of the cv33 in chinese army use?

Post by L1E1 » 17 Oct 2015 04:09

Sand yellow base colour with light green.
CV35 not CV33.

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Re: Colours of the cv33 in chinese army use?

Post by YC Chen » 17 Oct 2015 06:07

China had no CV33 but only CV35. One way to distinguish them is the different shape of vision slots on each side of the casemate.

One source mentioned that the CV35s sold to China had already been used in Africa by the Italians.

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Re: Colours of the cv33 in chinese army use?

Post by Lance Naik » 17 Oct 2015 08:57

Well, if they are usted un Africa, maybe Etiopía, the camouflage scheme of the RE there was brick red and green.

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Re: Colours of the cv33 in chinese army use?

Post by Lance Naik » 17 Oct 2015 10:16

Lance Naik wrote:Well, if they are usted un Africa, maybe Etiopía, the camouflage scheme of the RE there was brick red and green.
Excuse me, I want to say , that, if the cv35 were used by the italian army in Ethiopia, the camouflage scheme, could be the usual there, brick red and green, ( in some chinese cv35s photos the base colour looks darker than sand). Maybe , they come to China in that scheme and repainted some time after.

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Re: Colours of the cv33 in chinese army use?

Post by xingbake » 18 Oct 2015 03:51

xingbake wrote:Here is the CV33 at China Military Museum in Beijing. Not sure if it's original painting. But from the original black & white picture it seems there was no camoulfages on it.

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Re: Colours of the cv33 in chinese army use?

Post by YC Chen » 24 Dec 2015 17:08

YC Chen wrote:China had no CV33 but only CV35. One way to distinguish them is the different shape of vision slots on each side of the casemate.

One source mentioned that the CV35s sold to China had already been used in Africa by the Italians.
Sorry for my mistake, I checked the material and it say the CV35s were repainted tanks already used by Italians. This means that they may not retain the original camouflage.

I recommend this article: http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_afc878980102vx2w.html and http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_afc878980102vxos.html , written by my friend and forum member "zoboe", which provides quite comprehensive and reliable information on CV35s in China.

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