Shanghai 1932

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Re: Shanghai 1932

Post by alexWong » 06 May 2010 15:30

The originals of these pix with hand written ink notes
I forgot where did I downloaded them.
Sorry unable to upload the pix will try again later.

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Re: Shanghai 1932

Post by alexWong » 07 May 2010 06:03

alexWong wrote:The originals of these pix with hand written ink notes
I forgot where did I downloaded them.
Sorry unable to upload the pix will try again later.
Here come the pix
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Re: Shanghai 1932

Post by Peter H » 08 May 2010 07:28

Thanks Alex.

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Wooshung fort artillery
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Re: Shanghai 1932

Post by YC Chen » 08 May 2010 07:37

Nice photo. Does anyone have photos of those heavy fortress guns made by Shanghai Arsenal(上海兵工厂)in 1880s and 1890s? They built 180-pound(1887), 250-pound(1888), 800-pound(1892) and 380-pound(1897) fortress guns. It is said that the guns in Huangpu and Wusong forts were all made by Shanghai Arsenal.

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Re: Shanghai 1932

Post by YC Chen » 08 May 2010 07:55

Found this on the Internet: the guns in Wusong Fort in 1932(sorry not transleted):
吴淞口明炮台

装备220mm(3.65米长)阿式前装炮1门,200mm(6.6米长)阿式前装炮1门,170mm(3.8米长)瓦瓦斯前装炮1门。

吴淞口暗炮台

装备170mm(3米长)前装炮5门,170mm(4.2米长)克虏伯后装炮2门,170mm(2.6米长)阿式前装炮4门,120mm(2.7米长)阿式前装炮6门,100mm-110mm旧式前装炮1门。

南石塘明炮台

装备300mm(7.6米长)阿式前装炮4门,200mm(4.7米长)克虏伯后装炮2门,200mm(7米长)阿式前装炮2门,120mm(3米长)克虏伯后装炮3门。

狮子林明炮台

装备300mm(10.6米长)阿式后装炮备门,220mm(8米长)阿式后装炮4门,120mm(3米长)克虏伯后装炮3门。
Chinese 800-pound gun, date&place unknown:
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Re: Shanghai 1932

Post by nuyt » 15 May 2010 11:58

This picture is very rare. It shows a HIH 75mm infantry gun from the rear. The first pic to do so that I know of.
For more info on the gun check here (some scrolling to do!):
http://www.network54.com/Forum/330333/t ... +1923-1934
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Re: Shanghai 1932

Post by Peter H » 14 Jun 2010 10:24

More fort photos.

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Re: Shanghai 1932

Post by Peter H » 14 Jun 2010 10:29

Same source.
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Re: Shanghai 1932

Post by Peter H » 14 Jun 2010 10:34

Same source.

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Re: Shanghai 1932

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Re: Shanghai 1932

Post by AVV » 14 Jun 2010 19:01

Good evening!
Peter H wrote:More...
Who can tell me what gun is shown on the first photo? I think it's Madsen, but I'm not sure...

Best regards, Aleks

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Re: Shanghai 1932

Post by Peter H » 11 Sep 2010 01:18

From ebay,seller mmtt02
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Re: Shanghai 1932

Post by Peter H » 11 Sep 2010 01:22

Same source.

British troops on alert
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Re: Shanghai 1932

Post by 19thRoute » 19 Sep 2010 04:55

Chiang Kai-shek once mentioned that the 19 Route had no artillery until he sent in the 5th Army, yet in some of the pictures it seem 19th Route soldiers were manning at least small field guns. Can someone confirm?

Also does anyone have the specifics on the armament and equipment of 19th Route soldiers? It seems the Hanyang 88 rifle is prevalent, and they have a mix of the ski-caps and peaked hats, and of course the bamboo coolie hats with the Chinese characters "19th Route Army" written.

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Re: Shanghai 1932

Post by YC Chen » 19 Sep 2010 10:36

The 19th Route army relied heavily on mortars at that time. But it's possible that they did have some 2cm automatic cannons before the arrival of 5th army(I'm not sure). I'll try to find some Chinese articles about this in the future.
The 19th Route army did wear different caps at that time. The round caps were newer.

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