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Re: 100 Regiments Offensive map

Postby asiaticus » 31 Jul 2006 23:49

A better map of the attacks showing the Chinese units names.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2005-05/2 ... 026312.htm

Rest of the article again in Chinese
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2005-05/2 ... 991630.htm

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Chinese raids - 1940

Postby tigre » 01 Aug 2006 02:12

hello asiaticus, so long my friend. quoted from my last post.

In central China, regular troops, strong guerrilla bands and revolting Chinese mercenary troops of the puppet regime became unusually active along the Yangtze, forcing the Japanese to evacuate their advanced positions and damaging extensively the long lines of Japanese communications. Regular Chinese units are known to have struck at Yangtze river ports between Hankow and Nanking.

In northern China, a force of 20,000 Chinese has been harassing Japanese positions in Shansi province. Organized raiders from this force have operated as deep into Japanese sectors as the Tientsin - Peking area.


The actions of the 100 Regiment deals with the Chinese units raids?. If not could someone add more info?. TIA.Cheers. Tigre.

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Postby Peter H » 01 Aug 2006 03:47

The coal mine shown is most likely the Jingxing coal mine which supplied the Anshan iron works.The mine was put out of action for around 6 months.

Operation 100 Regiments was against installations,not Japanese troops.Only one Japanese division was pulled back from the front as a result.Chinese claims of Japanese casualties above there own of 90,000 appear false.

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Chinese raids - 1940

Postby tigre » 01 Aug 2006 04:48

Thank you very much Peter. Cheers. Tigre.

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Jingxing Mine Area

Postby asiaticus » 01 Aug 2006 05:40

Found this about the mines from a Shijiazhuang website:
http://english.sjzchina.com/index.html

Jingxing Mine Area
Jingxing Mine Area is at the west of Hebei and 50 km away from Shijiazhuang. It is the important place between hebei and Shanxi and famous for high quality coke in the world so that it is one of the ten coke production bases of the country. The annual temperature is 12.7℃ and annual rainfall is 580 mm and no-frost is more than 190 days. The district has the total area of 68.62 square km and the total population of 115000, of which town population of 72000. It has 2 towns, 1 rural area, 2 street offices, 32 villages and 32 residential management offices. It is famous for the beautiful mountains, water and rich productions named “Gold basin and precious place” .

The traffic of Kuang District was convenient. It was located on the entryway of Shanxi Province and Hebei Province. To the south there was Shitai Raiway and to the north there was Shuohuang Railway. In the district Jingzhang and Fengzhang Special Railway connected with the national railway network. The roads spread all over the district. Shitai Freeway, No.307 National Highway and Pingshe Highway run through the whole district.

The mineral resources of Kuang District were abundant. In the district there were many resources: coke, lime rock, dolomite, pottery clay, quartz and pyrites that were listed in the national and provincial storage table. The production volume of coke was 5000 ten thousand ton. The industrial storage volume of lime rock was 6.8 hundred million ton. The underground water of Kuang District was rich and water height was 180-220 meters. The daily water supply volume was 15 ten thousand ton which can match the water requirement of big projects.


So it seems this mine was just east of the Niangtzu pass the 8th Route also attacked. I attach a photo of the mountainous area the railway goes thru in that pass. Reminds me of the Colorado Plateau or parts of the Rockies.
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North China operations in 1940

Postby Akira Takizawa » 16 Aug 2006 07:27

4/11-5/31 冀中作戦 (Central Hepei Operation)
It was the operation to sweep the Chinese and secure the channels in Central Hepei. 27th and 110th Divisions and 15th IMB participated.

4/17-5/8 春季普南作戦 (Spring South Shanhsi Operation)
It was the operation of the 1st Army to destroy the Nationalist Chinese around Yuncheng in South Shanhsi. 41st, 36th, 37th Divisions participated and a part of 35th Division cooperated.

6/20-7/9 西北山西作戦 (North-West Shanhsi Operation)
It was the operation of the 1st Army to destroy the Communist Chinese around Xingxian, Lanxian and Linxian in North-West Shanhsi (Refer to below map). 3rd, 9th and 16th IMBs of the 1st Army and Soyama and Ishimaru Detachments from Mongol Army particiated. 3,418 Chinese were killed and 219 were captured. 89 Japanese were killed and 79 were wounded.
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Postby asiaticus » 17 Aug 2006 11:18

Thanks for running those down Taki. First two seem to be rolling back Winter Offensive gains or chasing down guerrillas.

Wonder what got the 1st Army after the Chinese Communist forces in the last one?
Thats a month or so before their 100 regiments offensive.

BTW what were the Soyama and Ishimaru Detachments from Mongol Army?
Regimental detachments of 26th Division?

Did you find anything out about the 2/15 第2次浙東作戦 - Second East Chechiang Operation?
Other than the 22nd Division carried it out.

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Postby Akira Takizawa » 17 Aug 2006 14:28

> Wonder what got the 1st Army after the Chinese Communist forces in the last one?

The Japanese temporarily occupied Xingxian, Lanxian and Linxian, but abandonned them after the operation.

> BTW what were the Soyama and Ishimaru Detachments from Mongol Army?

I don't know.

> Did you find anything out about the 2/15 第2次浙東作戦 - Second East Chechiang Operation?

I did not check about it.

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Postby asiaticus » 18 Aug 2006 19:22

Taki take a look at this:

http://www.geocities.jp/tamatumaru/1.html

I seems to be talking about a 13th Regiment history,. the 6/20-7/9 西北山西作戦 (North-West Shanhsi Operation) is mentioned and the leader of the regiment at the time 石黒岩太大佐 (Col. Ishiguro?). It was part of the 26th Division but Babblefish makes a hash of the translation of the name and what it was doing at the time. It looks like it was busy from August to December with operations too, presumably vs the 100 Regiment Offensive.
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Postby Akira Takizawa » 19 Aug 2006 03:14

> I seems to be talking about a 13th Regiment history

Correctly, it is 13th Independent Infantry Regiment. It is the different unit from 13th Infantry Regiment.

> ,. the 6/20-7/9 西北山西作戦 (North-West Shanhsi Operation) is mentioned and the leader of the regiment at the time 石黒岩太大佐 (Col. Ishiguro?).

Yes

> It was part of the 26th Division but Babblefish makes a hash of the translation of the name and what it was doing at the time.

I researched further.

Isayama (not Soyama) was the commander of 11th Independent Infantry Regiment of 26th Division. So, Isayama detachment will mean 11th Independent Infantry Regiment.

I cannot find about Ishimaru. It would mean 13th Independent Infantry Regiment, but I cannot find that fact.


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Postby asiaticus » 19 Aug 2006 23:26

Thanks for looking that over. I would bet Ishimaru is a mistake of Ishiguro as Soyama apparently was of Isayama.

Can you make out the August thru December 1940 operations 13th Independent Infantry Regiment were involved with on that site? Babblefish stinks at translating them as you can see..

June 20th - July 9th Nisikita Shanxi maneuvers. This was North-West Shanhsi Operation.

July 27th - October 27th Patrol suppression around Wuhan (Onoda compiling battalion). Wuhan? That doesnt seem right.

September 12th - September 23rd Cheaply north it is hard the positive maneuvers. (?!)

November 6th - December 2nd Shin observing/thinking 冀 side Ku purge suppression maneuvers (Onoda compiling battalion). (?!)

November 14th - November 22nd Purge maneuvers around first next silver mine. (?!)

December 8th - December 12th Purge maneuvers around first next 蠻 Chinese mountain. (?!)

It would be interesting to compare this to the Chinese account of the 100 Regiment activity.

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Postby Akira Takizawa » 20 Aug 2006 07:00

July 27th - October 27th Patrol suppression around Wuhan (Onoda compiling battalion). Wuhan? That doesnt seem right.

It is a right translation. It seems that they dispatched troops to Wuhan.

September 12th - September 23rd Cheaply north it is hard the positive maneuvers. (?!)

Anbei and Guyang Operation

Anbai is north of Wuyuan and Guyang is north of Baotou

November 6th - December 2nd Shin observing/thinking 冀 side Ku purge suppression maneuvers (Onoda compiling battalion). (?!)

晋察冀 Security Operation

晋察冀 is the area extending Shanxi, Quhar and Hebei. The Chinese communist was building here a liberated district called as 晋察冀. I don't know how 晋察冀 is called in the West.

November 14th - November 22nd Purge maneuvers around first next silver mine. (?!)

1st Security Operation around the silver mine

I don't know where was the silver mine.

December 8th - December 12th Purge maneuvers around first next 蠻 Chinese mountain. (?!)

1st Security Operaion around Mt. Manhan

Mt. Manhan is north of Daihai Lake in Inner-Mongol.

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new subject: Riverine Warfare--battles for Changsha

Postby Jerry Asher » 20 Aug 2006 21:38

Can anyone point me in the right direction for information regarding thebattles of Changsha-order of battle of Japanese forces--Chinese passive measures and mines?

I feel like an idiot I can't figure out how to post a new message.

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Postby asiaticus » 23 Aug 2006 10:44

Thanks for the improved translation Taki

That is an interesting range of activity to be involved in.

晋察冀 Chin Sui Border Region?
this communist area is located in that area
That site that has Resistance and Revolution in China has a map that shows that areas district names and locations.

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Postby Edward Chen » 23 Aug 2006 15:51

Hi all,

晋察冀 literally means Shansi-Chahar-Hopei [Shanxi-Chahar-Hebei in pinyin], from the traditional abbreviated (single-character) names of those provinces.

Hope this helps, and Best Regards,
Edward Chen


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