When would be the best time to kill Hitler

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When would be the best time to kill Hitler

Postby Christian Ankerstjerne » 31 Jan 2018 18:27

Assuming you had a time machine, when would be the best time to kill Hitler, to save as many lives as possible? Too early, and someone else could easily take his place. Too late, and there's no point.

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Re: When would be the best time to kill Hitler

Postby Gorque » 31 Jan 2018 19:57

I given this great thought and what I would do is not kill Der Führer but instead I would travel back in time and kidnap him, say when he was twelve or so and then transport him to another place and era, such as 1848 Germany. I choose this time due to his strong nationalist tendencies, the massive discontent then roiling Europe and his yearning for the less complicated times of yore. Who knows, maybe he could've accomplished something that would have foiled the eventual consolidation under the Prussians.

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Re: When would be the best time to kill Hitler

Postby Carl Schwamberger » 01 Feb 2018 04:52

I'd have some Jewish art dealer buy his paintings. Build a working & social relationship.

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Re: When would be the best time to kill Hitler

Postby T. A. Gardner » 01 Feb 2018 06:40

Well, I don't think it'd be this:

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Re: When would be the best time to kill Hitler

Postby Kingfish » 01 Feb 2018 09:49

Obviously just before he reaches for that last slice of key lime pie
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Re: When would be the best time to kill Hitler

Postby Markus Becker » 05 Feb 2018 12:46

November 9th, 1923. The Bavarian police killed 16 Nazis during the Beer Hall Putsch, including the person standing right next to Hitler. It could have easily been him.

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Re: When would be the best time to kill Hitler

Postby Phaing » 13 Feb 2018 20:21

In the trenches during WW1.
It would hardly be an unusual way to die, and he was wounded and gassed, a couple times for each.

In fact, one is tempted to wonder how he made it out of there at all...

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Re: When would be the best time to kill Hitler

Postby Markus Becker » 13 Feb 2018 21:58

All of his time traveling wanna be killers were killed in the trenches? They were an unsafe place, weren't they? ;)

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Re: When would be the best time to kill Hitler

Postby Frankfurter » 14 Feb 2018 23:38

Christian Ankerstjerne wrote:Assuming you had a time machine, when would be the best time to kill Hitler, to save as many lives as possible? Too early, and someone else could easily take his place. Too late, and there's no point.

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General von Witzleben´s plan to arrest him, or kill him (Witzleben at that time preferred an arrest, the men actually chosen to take Hitler would have killed him) at the time of the Munich Treaty would have been the best time. The surprise moove at Munich (weak Chamberlain, Mussolini´s moderation, Hiter´s big success within a matter of a few days) made it impossible as no one in Germany would have supported a coup against a "peacefully" successful Hitler. It was a matter of days, sadly...

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Re: When would be the best time to kill Hitler

Postby Christian Ankerstjerne » 15 Feb 2018 16:35

Some good input above!

How would you consider 3 July, i.e., right after the Night of the Long Knives? This would have created a serious power vacuum, combined with a politically tense situation.

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Re: When would be the best time to kill Hitler

Postby Markus Becker » 15 Feb 2018 17:34

IMO too late. The Nazis might not remain in power and WW2 looks not likely to occur but I'd rather have him dead before he 'killed' the first free and democratic German state. In 1923 he was just one of the local radicals in Munich, not a national political figure.

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Re: When would be the best time to kill Hitler

Postby Futurist » 13 May 2018 23:38

Markus Becker wrote:November 9th, 1923. The Bavarian police killed 16 Nazis during the Beer Hall Putsch, including the person standing right next to Hitler. It could have easily been him.

Yeah, either this or sometime during World War I. It would be better for Germany in comparison to a later assassination of Hitler considering that Germany's Jewish population probably wouldn't emigrate en masse if Hitler never came to power in Germany and instituted various anti-Semitic measures.

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Re: When would be the best time to kill Hitler

Postby Skarpskytten » 16 May 2018 18:32

Christian Ankerstjerne wrote:... Too early, and someone else could easily take his place ...


Stephen Fry (yes, the comedian) explores this idea in his hilarious (and dark) alternative history novel ]Making history.

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Re: When would be the best time to kill Hitler

Postby James A Pratt III » 17 May 2018 23:13

Good times right before he came to power in 1933, Munich 1938 before Chamberlin's appeasement, or in late 1939 the Munich bomb that went off about 20-30 minutes too late. Goring would have succeeded him. Many people think of goring as a Bloated, bemedaled, brutal, buffoon. he was in real life a very intelligent man who is not going to take the risks Hitler did as in the 1938 Czech affair let alone start WW II. Note in 1938-39 the German military leadership had real doubts about the combat readiness of their army. So under Goring Germany there might not have been a world war.


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