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Does anyone think this is timeline could have ever happened?

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Post by Account deleted » 21 Jul 2018, 18:13

Hermann Goering is shot by Reichstag Guards for arguing with Chief of the Fuhrer’s Chancellery.

Deputy Head of the SS decided to kill entire OKW, all their staff and officers.

Deputy head of the SS gets removed by Chief of the Reichskanzlei and Chief of the Party Chancellery

New Deputy head of the SS is appointed

Deputy Head of the SS takes Moscow(May 1944)

Soviet Union Collapses(May 1944)

Deputy Head of the SS goes on Vacation

New Deputy Head of SS is appointed

Minister of Justice is killed by the Heer

Heer COs and NCOs are lined up by the SS and shot

Martin Bormann approves of all Reichsleiter and Reichsminister appointments along with war planning approval. He also leds Cabinet Meetings.

Heinrich Himmler is declared a traitor

Himmler is pardoned by Hitler

Deputy Head of the SS kills Minister of Justice

Martin Bormann uses Heer to arrest and shoot Deputy Head of the SS

New Deputy Head of the SS is appointed

Chief of the RSHA opens investigation with SD into Martin Bormann

Chief of the RSHA orders Martin Bormann to be placed into protective custody

Minister of Justice has trial against Martin Bormann, at which he is decided to be guilty

Martin Bormann is shot and killed in main hall of Reichstag by Heinrich Himmler

Heinrich Himmler declares the NSDAP an illegal organization

Heinrich Himmler puts all organisations under the SS, the FHA takes over the OKW, the WHVA takes over the Economics and Finance Ministry, the SS-Gericht takes over the Ministry of Justice.
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Post by T. A. Gardner » 21 Jul 2018, 18:22

Turtle02536 wrote:
21 Jul 2018, 18:13
Deputy Head of the SS decided to kill entire OKW, all their staff and officers.
No, and the above is why. The OKW amounts to dozens of very highly placed generals and colonels along with hundreds of other officers and even more enlisted men. Even attempting to murder them all would have resulted in an open revolt by the military to overthrow Hitler.


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Post by Account deleted » 21 Jul 2018, 18:36

But the other events make sense?

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Post by Robert Rojas » 21 Jul 2018, 18:37

Greetings to 'Turtle02536' and the community as a whole. Howdy 'Turtle02536'! Well sir OR madam, in deference to your point OR points-of-view as articulated within your introductory posting of Saturday - July 21, 2018 - 8:13am, old yours truly is of the layman's opinion that nothing is out of the realm of possibility when it comes to the Machiavellian netherworld of National Socialist Germany. However, old Uncle Bob thinks it's best to allow more "adventuresome" contributors to engage in this open ended fishing expedition of yours. It's just some friendly food for thought. Tuna anyone? Well, that my initial and last two cents or pfennigs worth on this meandering topic of interest. In any case, I would like to bid you an especially copacetic day from sea to shining sea.

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Post by maltesefalcon » 21 Jul 2018, 21:05

If you wish this very over the top scenario to be taken seriously, you need to add some names to start with. For instance who is the Deputy Leader of the SS? Depends a bit on year and which department. Lots more detail over what, when, why. How does Moscow fall to the SS Deputy Leader with an eviscerated Heer and OKW in the mix?

What is going on between Himmler and Hitler? Hitler is the only one who has the chops to authorize Himmlers arrest. So the arrest/pardon situation makes no sense.

It goes on and on. And you might correct your title so that at least timeline is spelled correctly.

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Post by T. A. Gardner » 21 Jul 2018, 22:47

Turtle02536 wrote:
21 Jul 2018, 18:36
But the other events make sense?
No.
Heer COs and NCOs are lined up by the SS and shot

This is tens of thousands of men, all in the military. The Heer / Wehrmacht would revolt. During the war the Nazis banned smoking in public buildings and on public transport. They wanted to ban it in the military but didn't do that because they were afraid of a revolt over it. Shooting every officer and NCO in the military is a big order. Even if it were possible to carry it out, who do you replace these guys with? Do you seek loyalty over competence like most dictatorships do? If so, the quality of the German military takes a nose dive.
Martin Bormann uses Heer to arrest and shoot Deputy Head of the SS
While this one is doable, probably, it isn't after you decapitate the Heer as you list above.
Deputy Head of the SS takes Moscow(May 1944)
This one is just laughable. The Germans couldn't take Moscow in 1941. How are they going to do it in 1944?

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Post by Account deleted » 22 Jul 2018, 05:52

That's what I thought.

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