Erie/Ireland invaded by Germany 1940

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Re: Erie/Ireland invaded by Germany 1940

Post by phylo_roadking » 24 Feb 2014 16:19

Actually if you are talking about the "Irish Catholic lobby" in the US you may need to be here rather than there. The attitudes, knowledge, and understandings of Irish Americans and Irish Nationals don't line up perfectly.
I was talking more about -
You propose that the Irish lobby in US would abide because "they ain't Brits"?!??
...with the "sentiment filter" of the Atlantic Ocean between them, Irish Americans are likely to want nothing done rather than help the British in Ireland ;) That stretch of ocean seems very much to accentuate Irish Nationalism's hatred of the British :wink: Back on the Oul Sod during WWII the majority of Irish were far more pragmatic - they were busy making money feeding the British, going to work in British factories, watching Irish coastline and reporting to London...and joining the British armed forces :P

The more rabid wings of Irish Nationalism at home weren't helped by the fact that De Valera's two arrest waves had incarcerated hundreds of IRA volunteers for the duration of "the Emergency". Whole sections of the movement were missing, and others out of contact with each other...and a pre-war schism and feud inside the organisation hadn't helped either :P The idea of the IRA managing to mobilise 5,000 volunteers for Plan Kathleen was completely ludicrous :lol: They couldn't have mobilised 500...not without getting them out of the Curragh internment camp first!

Supporters of Irish Nationalism still outside the internment process were also stifled to an extent; De Valera craftily brought them into the nation defence by creating a two-tier home guard; and the lower tier, that the majority of them were channelled into, wasn't armed with much more than homemade weapons and delineated as a"home guard" by denim overalls. It not only brought them under IDF direction and command...and also prevented them getting their hands on modern(ish!) weapons and training! :wink:
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Re: Erie/Ireland invaded by Germany 1940

Post by PF » 20 Jan 2016 21:10

Now as regarding Irish neutrality...the Wannesse Conference listed Jewish Persons not only in German Occupied Countires but also in Unoccupied Countires...including dear old Ireland ...north and south of the post Irish Civil War Border....Hitler was no respecter of neutrality where Jews were concerned...He ment to kill them off the face of the earth..where ever he had domination...from 1919 to 1945 he never wavered never repented of his race hatred...Ireland....would have been under the German jackboot...peoples enslaved and resources explioted for the Third Reich...

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Re: Erie/Ireland invaded by Germany 1940

Post by Linkagain » 13 Apr 2021 20:06

I came across a cartoon from Punch Magazine...which showed Dev Valera...waving a proclomation called "Neutrality" against the Gathering storm {Nazism] engulfing Europe....Very perseptive..... :wink: :roll:

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Re: Erie/Ireland invaded by Germany 1940

Post by Linkagain » 11 Nov 2021 17:42

The Punch Cartoon of De Valera and Neutrality
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=189737&p=2374057&h ... a#p2374057

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