The my statement is based on the "KIA exchange rate" which would be even more favourable for Finns if equipped better.Slon-76 wrote:2 million - not a problem?!? Juha, I understand, that you are proud of armed forces of the country, but such words simply are not serious. If you at all do not count the Soviet infantry a problem, where you will put superiority RKKA in artillery, aircraft and tanks? All the same all this will shoot on the Finnish armies, only it will be much more, accordingly and losses in the Finnish army will be more.Juha Tompuri wrote:
As Finnish army was about 340 000 men strong and the KIA rate in real Winter War between USSR and Finland was about 5.7 to 1 (or more), the two million army might or might not have been problematic for Finns in this scenario (Finns with more and better arms).
The Red Army "would go through" also 600 thousand lost, and “would go through” Finnish, for example, 100-120 thousand killed and wounded?
A unit having two leaders, one military and one political was a strange and a clumsy system.Slon-76 wrote:I think what yes. The red army most of all suffered from a low level of preparation of command structure of an average and lowest link.Juha Tompuri wrote:
The purges and the a bit strange Soviet command system with included political elements in the decision making seemed to not to have encouraged the commanders in very initiative style of leading their units. If you understand what I mean.
It was are direct investigation of the general low level of literacy of the population getting " in the inheritance " from Russian Empire. “Political elements” were much a smaller problem, than this.
Slon-76 wrote:Juha Tompuri wrote:
Slon, I know you know that the " summer uniforms no less and at minus forty" is true and ""cuckooes" and built rubber bunkers" is less true.
I actually ment Summer gear and -40, not them neccessary together. As I ment the cucooes and rubber bunkers not together too (cucooes shooting from rubber bunkers)Slon-76 wrote:I think, that you know, that I do not do groundless applications. "Summer uniforms no less and at minus forty" - It is a myth, same as ""cuckooes" and built rubber bunkers".
Possible at Salla-Saija-Märkjärvi area yes, at least at official measuring posts (which however were not at the front lines), this time at Sodankylä -34,3°C if it makes any difference for the individuals there.Slon-76 wrote:I already spoke, that such situations took place in December. But at the end of a month the instruction of the Stavka, strictly forbidden to send an army on front without warm regimentals has left. In December somewhere there were frosts -40C?
What about 136th and 163th Divisions?Slon-76 wrote:By the way, " everyone know " that 44-n the division has arrived on front in the summer form.
I now work with documents of this division and I can approve, that it - lie. The only thing that was not at a division are “valenoks.” Them gave out already on a place.
Combat losses or all losses?Slon-76 wrote:These are losses of warplanes in fighting sorties.Juha Tompuri wrote:Interesting.Slon-76 wrote: During Winter war of Air Forces of Red Army lost one plane on 110-115 starts, the Air Forces of Finland - one on 89 starts.
Does the Soviet/Finnish figures also include trainers or just combat planes?
Combat sorties or all sorties?
To what numbers you base your claim?
The Soviet goals at the war were far further (both military and political ones) than the eventually acchieved.Slon-76 wrote:Primary task was to remove border, attempt of change of political system - investigation of decision-making on the military decision of this question. Generalizing: Time we shall be at war, it is possible to put wider tasks.Juha Tompuri wrote:
Depending what the "win" is.
Soviet initial goal was to change the political system in Finland, and Finnish goal was to stay independent.
I think the outcome would have been the same.
If to start with an initial task the USSR has executed it. And that Stalin wanted in a reality we can guess only.