Operation Valkyrie successful - Impact on PTO

[Helmut0815]

Given that operation Valkyrie succeeded and war in Europe comes to an end by mid/end August 44, what would have been the impact on the Pacific Theatre of War? Would the allies be able to defeat Japan as early as spring 1945 or even earlier? What about the atomic bomb and what would the soviets do?


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Helmut

[T. A. Gardner]

It probably wouldn't have that much impact for the US. The Soviets joining the war in say December 1944 might have a big impact. Launching a winter offensive into Manchuria would see the same sort of massive defeats the Japanese originally experienced. But, the Soviets would also be in no position to exploit any sort of amphibious assault as the US wouldn't have been in a position to hand over masses of landing craft like they did in mid 1945 that made it possible for the Russians to invade some of the Kurile Islands.

The US would still have to take Okinawa like they did. That campaign might be a little easier as more equipment and ships would be available for it with the war in Europe over.

[ljadw]

Given that operation Valkyrie succeeded and war in Europe comes to an end by mid/end August 44,

This is debatable .

[T. A. Gardner]

This is debatable .

No kidding. What do the conspirators do next? What do Hitler's loyalists do? Is there an internal civil war over control, or does the remaining government try to surrender?

If they do try the later, to whom?

For example, what if they try to surrender to the US and Britain but continue to fight in the East against the Soviets? How would that play out? And, how would the post war division of Europe play out?

This could have caused all sorts of major issues between the West and Soviet Union on its own. Perhaps Stalin insists he won't help in the Pacific War until the Allies turn over big chunks of real estate in Europe.
Or, the Germans refuse to lay down arms against Russia while letting the Western Front collapse in surrender. Now what?

[ljadw]

Other example : what if the Wallies refuse a German surrender in the West as long as the Germans continue to fight in the East ? Or if the Germans tried a new ,opposite Brest-Litowsk : separate peace with the SU ?

The truth is that we don't know what would be the impact of a successful Valkyrie.

[jesk]

Successful Valkyrie completely excluded the Soviet factor from world politics. The Red Army sent large columns to the camps for prisoners of war. As it was in the first year of the war. When 5 million Soviet soldiers were captured.They could make it - again to be taken prisoner.

[Cantankerous]

If Operation Valkyrie had succeeded, then it would never have had a serious impact on the Pacific theater of World War II because even with the German aerospace industry supplying the Japanese with blueprints for the Walter HWK 509 rocket motor and BMW 003 turbojet, the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy still had the guts to continue taking on US ships and planes in the western Pacific Ocean after the US victory in the June-July 1944 Battle of Saipan with conventional piston-powered aircraft.