Would the US have been more willing to make military commitments in Europe if Poland fell in 1920?

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Re: Would the US have been more willing to make military commitments in Europe if Poland fell in 1920?

Post by Plain Old Dave » 26 Sep 2018 03:55

Futurist wrote:
25 Sep 2018 01:03


The common narrative about Wilson = internationalist and Republicans = isolationist has been debunked by Lloyd Ambrosius's work on this subject:

https://books.google.com/books?id=_0m4X ... us&f=false
Primary documentation, please. Doesn't appear your thesis was designed round an omniscient point of view; we should restrict ourselves to the world as it was (and was known) in 1920. And the GOP clearly ran the elections as a referendum on Wilsonism; Harding's "return to normalcy" was a thinly veiled attack on Wilsonian globalism.

All the US wanted in 1920 was to bury their dead, complete the after action reports, build monuments, and bring the Doughboys home.

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Re: Would the US have been more willing to make military commitments in Europe if Poland fell in 1920?

Post by Futurist » 26 Sep 2018 04:19

Plain Old Dave wrote:
26 Sep 2018 03:55
Futurist wrote:
25 Sep 2018 01:03


The common narrative about Wilson = internationalist and Republicans = isolationist has been debunked by Lloyd Ambrosius's work on this subject:

https://books.google.com/books?id=_0m4X ... us&f=false
Primary documentation, please. Doesn't appear your thesis was designed round an omniscient point of view; we should restrict ourselves to the world as it was (and was known) in 1920. And the GOP clearly ran the elections as a referendum on Wilsonism; Harding's "return to normalcy" was a thinly veiled attack on Wilsonian globalism.

All the US wanted in 1920 was to bury their dead, complete the after action reports, build monuments, and bring the Doughboys home.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lodge_Res ... ublicanism

I believe that this is from a direct letter by Senator Lodge:

"if there had been no proposition such as is included in Article 10, but a simple proposition that it would be our intention to aid France, which is our barrier and outpost, when attacked without provocation by Germany, I should have strongly favored it for I feel very keenly the sacrifices of France and the immense value her gallant defense was to the whole world. But they have made the French treaty subject to the authority of the League, which is not to be tolerated. If we ever are called upon to go to the assistance of France as we were two years ago, we will go without asking anybody's leave. It is humiliating to be put in such an attitude and not the least of the mischief done by the League is that Article 10 will probably make it impossible to do anything for France as Root recommends and as many of our Senators desire."

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