How would the Holocaust have been remembered with a death toll of 1-2 million Jews instead of 6 million Jews?

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Re: How would the Holocaust have been remembered with a death toll of 1-2 million Jews instead of 6 million Jews?

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Post by Sid Guttridge » 01 Jul 2019, 10:52

Hi Futurist,

Thanks for the clarification.

The next question is: When and why would the Germans then start killing all the Jews within their control? No such intention is evident in 1940.

Cheers,

Sid.

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Re: How would the Holocaust have been remembered with a death toll of 1-2 million Jews instead of 6 million Jews?

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Post by Futurist » 02 Jul 2019, 01:31

Whenever they would decide on it. As for why, well, that would be the only way for the Germans to solve the Jewish problem once it becomes clear that they are not going to win the war.


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Re: How would the Holocaust have been remembered with a death toll of 1-2 million Jews instead of 6 million Jews?

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Post by MarkN » 02 Jul 2019, 21:11

Futurist wrote:
22 May 2019, 00:07
How would the Holocaust have been remembered with a death toll of 1-2 million Jews instead of 6 million Jews?

Any thoughts on this?
What sort of discussion are you hoping to illicit from this discussion?

A) a history based discussion about how such a number could have been murdered and the immediate consequences,
B) a propaganda based discussion about whether Israel could have spun a 'victim' narrative based upon 1-2 million as successfully as 6 million,
C) a sociatal and moralistic discussion about whether, in 2019, we consider 1-2 million a big enough number to spark interest?

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Re: How would the Holocaust have been remembered with a death toll of 1-2 million Jews instead of 6 million Jews?

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Post by Futurist » 02 Jul 2019, 22:17

MarkN wrote:
02 Jul 2019, 21:11
Futurist wrote:
22 May 2019, 00:07
How would the Holocaust have been remembered with a death toll of 1-2 million Jews instead of 6 million Jews?

Any thoughts on this?
What sort of discussion are you hoping to illicit from this discussion?

A) a history based discussion about how such a number could have been murdered and the immediate consequences,
B) a propaganda based discussion about whether Israel could have spun a 'victim' narrative based upon 1-2 million as successfully as 6 million,
C) a sociatal and moralistic discussion about whether, in 2019, we consider 1-2 million a big enough number to spark interest?
All of these.

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Re: How would the Holocaust have been remembered with a death toll of 1-2 million Jews instead of 6 million Jews?

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Post by wm » 11 Jul 2019, 22:32

Yes, it was about both the Slavs and Jews. Christopher Brown in his seminal "The Origins of the Final Solution" supports the interpretation.
The Nazis didn't necessarily want the Jews out, one of the ideas was a Jewish reservation in Poland (at Nisko).

The Jews were going to be expelled behind the Urals or sent to an island-reservation for example Madagascar.

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Re: How would the Holocaust have been remembered with a death toll of 1-2 million Jews instead of 6 million Jews?

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Post by Andy H » 16 Jul 2019, 20:23

Hi

This WI is beyond the pale in terms of decency and any possible informative discussion

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Andy H

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