No German scientists/technology for the Wallies - impact on the Cold War?

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Re: No German scientists/technology for the Wallies - impact on the Cold War?

Post by Michael Kenny » 07 Jan 2023 22:18

T. A. Gardner wrote:
07 Jan 2023 21:02


All of that was done without captured German technological input.

You will never get through to those who believe that WW2 ended just before the Haunebu were about to blast the bombers from the sky and save The Third Rake.
Only an imbecile wood deny that reality

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Re: No German scientists/technology for the Wallies - impact on the Cold War?

Post by paulrward » 07 Jan 2023 23:24

Hello All ;

You will also never get through to those who still believe that Britain was somehow
relevant to the war effort against the Axis after 1940, and refuse to accept the reality
that they were just a nearly useless appendage of the United States......

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Re: No German scientists/technology for the Wallies - impact on the Cold War?

Post by T. A. Gardner » 08 Jan 2023 02:43

paulrward wrote:
07 Jan 2023 23:24
Hello All ;

You will also never get through to those who still believe that Britain was somehow
relevant to the war effort against the Axis after 1940, and refuse to accept the reality
that they were just a nearly useless appendage of the United States......

Paul R. Ward
You obviously don't understand how Britian deals with major European land powers like Germany. The British tradition is to form a coalition with other powers and to use a combination of intrigue and what I'll call "colonial sniping" to wear the opposition down.

In the Napoleonic wars, that's what Britain did. Instead of direct confrontation with the French, they conducted a war at sea (France being a land power) while carrying out a low intensity war in Spain and Portugal, and gaining allies through diplomacy. Eventually, they wore the French down and ultimately defeated them in coalition warfare.

Same in WW 1, same in WW 2. They were a thorn in Germany's side the whole war. The Germans couldn't ignore them, couldn't outright defeat them, and over time the British gained enough allies that they wore Germany down and defeated them.

Without the British in the war, the US wouldn't have gotten involved (no U-boat campaign) and the Russians might well have been defeated one-on-one. That doesn't make the British "useless." They were the diplomatic glue that held a coalition together that in the end defeated Germany.

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Re: No German scientists/technology for the Wallies - impact on the Cold War?

Post by paulrward » 08 Jan 2023 06:01

Hello All ;

Of course. In the Napoleonic Wars, Britain was willing to fight to the last Spaniard
and the last German.

In the First World War, they were willing to fight to the last Frenchman.

And in the Second World War, they were willing to fight to the last Russian
and the last American.


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Re: No German scientists/technology for the Wallies - impact on the Cold War?

Post by Michael Kenny » 08 Jan 2023 06:39

paulrward wrote:
08 Jan 2023 06:01


Of course. In the Napoleanic Wars, Britain was willing to fight to the last Spaniard
and the last German.
Last Caçadores and last Hanovarian/Brunswicker during the 'Napoleanic (sick) Wars

Oh and by the way, I am Irish.

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Re: No German scientists/technology for the Wallies - impact on the Cold War?

Post by paulrward » 08 Jan 2023 06:47

Hello All ;
Oh and by the way, I am Irish.

Good News ! Modern medicine has now made that a treatable condition !!


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Re: No German scientists/technology for the Wallies - impact on the Cold War?

Post by Michael Kenny » 08 Jan 2023 06:49

paulrward wrote:
08 Jan 2023 06:47



Good News ! Modern medicine has now made that a treatable condition !!


Sorry, that didn't work either.

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Re: No German scientists/technology for the Wallies - impact on the Cold War?

Post by T. A. Gardner » 08 Jan 2023 18:05

paulrward wrote:
08 Jan 2023 06:01
Hello All ;

Of course. In the Napoleonic Wars, Britain was willing to fight to the last Spaniard
and the last German.

In the First World War, they were willing to fight to the last Frenchman.

And in the Second World War, they were willing to fight to the last Russian
and the last American.


Respectfully

Paul R. Ward
Worked for them, didn't it?

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