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Re: WWII Conspricy Theories

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Post by Richard Anderson » 08 Sep 2020, 20:18

OpanaPointer wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 19:12
Really? In 1965 a trusted neighbor gave me all forty volumes of The Congressional Investigation into the Attack on Pearl Harbor. He had bought them the day they were available from the GPO.

"There's a smoking gun in there somewhere, boy. You're smart, you can find it."

Early in 1969 I advised him that I hadn't found any smoking gun. He was disappointed but not disabused.

When I was leaving for the Navy that Spring he revealed that he was a veteran, having served with George Washington at Valley Forge.

So, no, there is no "too lunatic" when it comes to conspiracy advocates.
I once had a random stranger (I was working in retail at the time) inform me, without any inducement, that he had served in the Coast Guard, Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force, having volunteered on 8 December 1941, and then served in Europe and the Pacific during World War II, in Korea during the Korean War, and in Vietnam during the Vietnam War, having been variously a Ranger, a UDT swimmer, a Paratrooper, the coxswain of a landing craft, and innumerable other duties.

He had also been abducted by aliens and as a result could control the minds of squirrels, which power he used to drive the poor little devils to suicide under the wheels of his car.

I am not making any of this up.
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Re: WWII Conspricy Theories

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Post by maltesefalcon » 08 Sep 2020, 20:44

T. A. Gardner wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 19:01
OpanaPointer wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 09:56
T. A. Gardner wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 06:53
The most absurd is probably the Nazi U-boat base in Antarctica... That one is still trotted out today by some lunatics.
Boo! Nazi UFOs ftw.
I left the UFO part out on purpose. That's just too lunatic.
If a UFO is confirmed as a Nazi object, then technically it is identified, therefore not a UFO. :lol:


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Re: WWII Conspricy Theories

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Post by OpanaPointer » 08 Sep 2020, 20:50

maltesefalcon wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 20:44
T. A. Gardner wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 19:01
OpanaPointer wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 09:56
T. A. Gardner wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 06:53
The most absurd is probably the Nazi U-boat base in Antarctica... That one is still trotted out today by some lunatics.
Boo! Nazi UFOs ftw.
I left the UFO part out on purpose. That's just too lunatic.
If a UFO is confirmed as a Nazi object, then technically it is identified, therefore not a UFO. :lol:
This is where my hillbilly cousins start saying "You know damn well what I mean!" and I reply "But flying saucer even sounds stupid to you, so you don't say it."
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Post by Carl Schwamberger » 09 Sep 2020, 03:33

Education Moment

For this who were not in the military. If you start any story with "This is no S..t!" it automatically makes the tale unchallengeable as fiction or absurd. That preamble stamps the story with a sacred seal of authenticity & naysayers are faced with a impossible burden proving such as a sea story or latrine rumor.

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Post by Carl Schwamberger » 09 Sep 2020, 03:34

maltesefalcon wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 20:44

If a UFO is confirmed as a Nazi object, then technically it is identified, therefore not a UFO. :lol:
Sounds like a rhetorical trick to me.

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Post by T. A. Gardner » 09 Sep 2020, 03:45

maltesefalcon wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 20:44

If a UFO is confirmed as a Nazi object, then technically it is identified, therefore not a UFO. :lol:
That would make it an NFO or Nazi Flying Object... :P

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Post by History Learner » 09 Sep 2020, 03:58

The Pearl Harbor attack theory in my opinion is the most obvious and best supported one.

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Post by Futurist » 09 Sep 2020, 04:12

History Learner wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 03:58
The Pearl Harbor attack theory in my opinion is the most obvious and best supported one.
Details, please?

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Post by Carl Schwamberger » 09 Sep 2020, 04:23

In the 1940s there were several circulating in France. One was the Communists created the debacle of 1940 through sabotage of war industry and supply of the field armies, & then through persuading the reservists not to fight. The other was the army was betrayed by a cabal of right wing facist officers who purposely misdirected the battles, letting the German horde through the defense lines.

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Post by History Learner » 09 Sep 2020, 05:24

Carl Schwamberger wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 04:23
In the 1940s there were several circulating in France. One was the Communists created the debacle of 1940 through sabotage of war industry and supply of the field armies, & then through persuading the reservists not to fight. The other was the army was betrayed by a cabal of right wing facist officers who purposely misdirected the battles, letting the German horde through the defense lines.
Honestly, the former is actually pretty accurate, and Horne covers it extensively in his book, To Lose a Battle.

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Post by History Learner » 09 Sep 2020, 05:29

Futurist wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 04:12
History Learner wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 03:58
The Pearl Harbor attack theory in my opinion is the most obvious and best supported one.
Details, please?
Mainly circumstantial, based on motive and various actions; there is also a lot of evidence FDR had sent out bait ships into Southeast Asia immediately before Pearl Harbor to engender something.

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Post by T. A. Gardner » 09 Sep 2020, 05:39

Richard Anderson wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 20:18
I once had a random stranger (I was working in retail at the time) inform me, without any inducement, that he had served in the Coast Guard, Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force, having volunteered on 8 December 1941, and then served in Europe and the Pacific during World War II, in Korea during the Korean War, and in Vietnam during the Vietnam War, having been variously a Ranger, a UDT swimmer, a Paratrooper, the coxswain of a landing craft, and innumerable other duties.

He had also been abducted by aliens and as a result could control the minds of squirrels, which power he used to drive the poor little devils to suicide under the wheels of his car.

I am not making any of this up.
So, was it flipping burgers or a convivence store...? Or was it something like a store selling Himalayan salt crystal lights and medical marijuana? :D

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Post by T. A. Gardner » 09 Sep 2020, 05:47

Some of the best are the "lost gold" ones... Here's one you probably never heard of...

https://www.azcentral.com/story/travel/ ... 428889001/

Or, the Japanese gold in the Philippines

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamashita ... 20fifty%20

And, of course, the Nazi gold train...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gold_train

I'm sure there's plenty more where those came from...

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Post by Richard Anderson » 09 Sep 2020, 06:26

T. A. Gardner wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 05:39
So, was it flipping burgers or a convivence store...? Or was it something like a store selling Himalayan salt crystal lights and medical marijuana? :D
Nope, the old Hecht Company Store at Tysons Corner, Virginia.
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Re: WWII Conspricy Theories

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Post by Futurist » 09 Sep 2020, 06:41

History Learner wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 05:29
Futurist wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 04:12
History Learner wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 03:58
The Pearl Harbor attack theory in my opinion is the most obvious and best supported one.
Details, please?
Mainly circumstantial, based on motive and various actions; there is also a lot of evidence FDR had sent out bait ships into Southeast Asia immediately before Pearl Harbor to engender something.
If this is actually true, can you really blame FDR? After all, I fear that Nazi Germany would not have been defeated without outright US military participation in WWII, and I wonder if FDR himself privately knew that.

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