Operation Typhoon aimed at southern USSR in 1941

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ljadw
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Re: Operation Typhoon aimed at southern USSR in 1941

Post by ljadw » 07 Jun 2021 19:09

Fighters and bombers are combat aircraft and it was the mission of the German fighters to shoot allied bombers .
Training and experience are not the same: more training does not give more experience .
It is very possible that the successes of the P 51 Mustangs were due to their numerical superiority : in war,quantity mostly defeats quality .

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Re: Operation Typhoon aimed at southern USSR in 1941

Post by Kingfish » 07 Jun 2021 23:32

ljadw wrote:
07 Jun 2021 19:09
Fighters and bombers are combat aircraft and it was the mission of the German fighters to shoot allied bombers .
But its not the mission of the bombers to shoot down German fighters, so basing your argument on their level of experience in achieving that goal is flawed. Had the bombers not shot a single fighter that day, but completely leveled the target, the mission would have been judged a success.
more training does not give more experience .
No, but obtaining the latter increases proportionally by the amount of the former you provide. Otherwise you are feeding sheep to the wolves. See the Mariannas Turkey Shoot.
The gods do not deduct from a man's allotted span the hours spent in fishing.
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Re: Operation Typhoon aimed at southern USSR in 1941

Post by ljadw » 08 Jun 2021 11:23

The Mariannas Turkey shoot result (1 US/5 Japanese aircraft losses ) had several reasons,of which training was ONE of them, but it is unproved what the importance of the training was . US had numerical superiority and a lot of Japanese losses did not occur in air to air fighting . Besides, a lot of US pilots did not shoot Japanese aircraft .

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