Prospects of far-right people winning the US presidency if Nazis had won World War II

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Prospects of far-right people winning the US presidency if Nazis had won World War II

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Post by Cantankerous » 06 Jul 2022, 17:07

Let's say that the European theater of World War II ended in victory for Nazi Germany, and around the same time far-right activists gradually take over control of the leadership of the Republican Party. If Hitler had defeated the Allies in the European theater of World War II, would far-right extremists in the US in the mold of the KKK or other white nationalist groups have been emboldened to run for the Republican presidential nomination in the 1944 presidential election and eventually win the presidency? I mean, a far-right extremist belonging to the Republican Party sitting in the Oval Office would have sought an accommodation with Hitler and encouraged all white Russian emigres to flock to the Byelorussian SSR and Baltic states to form a far-right organization dedicated to standing up to the Soviet leadership and liberating Russia from communism, and he would have supported the Jim Crow system of segregation in the Deep South and instructed legislatures of US states to pass laws ordering American Jews to be segregated from all Anglo Americans.

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Post by wm » 06 Jul 2022, 18:53

Although the Ku Klux Klan supported the Democratic Party, and the post-confederate South was a stronghold of the Democrats.
So what is the Republican Party doing here?


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Post by Cantankerous » 06 Jul 2022, 21:52

wm wrote:
06 Jul 2022, 18:53
Although the Ku Klux Klan supported the Democratic Party, and the post-confederate South was a stronghold of the Democrats.
So what is the Republican Party doing here?
Hitler's anti-communism partly overlapped with the Republican Party's decision to develop a strong anti-communist stance in the 1920s and 1930s (people should remember that the Democrat/Republican schism was based solely on support from different sectors of the US economy, not race), and even though Hitler accused FDR of being influenced by American Jews, a Nazi victory would have emboldened a white nationalist Democrat from the Deep South with strong support from the KKK to run for the Democratic presidential nomination and win the 1944 presidential election so he/she could not only support Jim Crow laws but also order all American Jews to be consigned to Jewish-only public facilities in the Deep South while accusing many Jews and African Americans in the eastern US of being commie sympathizers.

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Post by Takao » 06 Jul 2022, 23:46

Your joking right?
Your forgetting the Democrat/Dixiecrat schism which was based on race. The Dixiecrats tried that in '48, and got blasted by Democrats and Republicans.

Your also forget how poorly the German-American Bund faired, even when Hitler was at the height of his power(Even Hitler did not like them).

You also forget that there were hardly any "far right" Republicans during the 1930s & 40s. The "far right" Republicans do not come on to the political scene until the mid-50s and then only in small numbers.

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Post by Terry Duncan » 07 Jul 2022, 20:29

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