Hitler joins an art academy in Munich

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Hitler joins an art academy in Munich

Post by Cantankerous » 22 Jul 2023 20:42

We know that Adolf Hitler moved to Bavaria in 1913 because he didn't like the multi-ethnic composition of Vienna and more broadly Austria-Hungary, and it's well known that he believed that his efforts to join an art academy in Vienna were thwarted because most people on the admissions board of the Vienna art academy were Jewish. Notwithstanding the fact that the outbreak of World War I prompted him to join the German Army, if Hitler had resumed his efforts to become a painter and joined the Academy of Fine Arts in Munich, would he have felt inclined to make a handful of paintings (in addition those depicting the Bavarian landscape) encapsulating anti-Semitic themes, like artistic depictions of Jews as either vile monsters with a hammer and sickle emblem on their chests or petty plutocratic beings? And would Germany's defeat in World War I and the Russian Revolution have prompted Hitler to make propaganda paintings depicting "Bolshevist Jewry" stabbing a female personification of Germany in the chest and throwing shackles around Mother Russia's neck, wrists, and ankles just because he later called Jews agents of communism and thus a mortal threat to what he called the pillars of European civilization?

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Re: Hitler joins an art academy in Munich

Post by Sheldrake » 22 Jul 2023 21:11

I like the idea.

Perhaps Hitler could beinfluenced by his contemporaries at Muich such as Kandinski
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Perhaps this Hitler would find fulilment in art and perhaps becoem an architect...

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Re: Hitler joins an art academy in Munich

Post by Peter89 » 22 Jul 2023 21:23

Then someone else would have made it. Hitler wasn't a singular phenomenon, and the NSDAP the only political power with radical ideas. The specifics of the dictatorship might have differed, but Germany was shifting towards radicalism.

The treaties near Paris left the power structure of CEE in shambles. If not the Germans, the Soviets would start it. If not the Soviets, a minor power would start it.
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Re: Hitler joins an art academy in Munich

Post by Cantankerous » 22 Jul 2023 22:28

Peter89 wrote:
22 Jul 2023 21:23
Then someone else would have made it. Hitler wasn't a singular phenomenon, and the NSDAP the only political power with radical ideas. The specifics of the dictatorship might have differed, but Germany was shifting towards radicalism.

The treaties near Paris left the power structure of CEE in shambles. If not the Germans, the Soviets would start it. If not the Soviets, a minor power would start it.
As long as people are aware that Hitler once dreamed of becoming a painter and moved from Vienna to Bavaria in 1913, it's still reasonable to believe that if Hitler had joined an art academy in Munich, he would have augmented paintings by him of the Bavarian landscape with propaganda paintings depicting Jews as pests infecting traditional German or other European life with communism. Only if World War I had not broken might he have sold any paintings by him at the Munich art academy to people in Russia so as to urge them not to support the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party based on his view that the communist ideology embraced by the Bolshevik faction of the RSDLP was a Jewish invention due to Karl Marx and Leon Trotsky being of Jewish ancestry.

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Re: Hitler joins an art academy in Munich

Post by paulrward » 23 Jul 2023 00:52

Hello All :
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Re: Hitler joins an art academy in Munich

Post by Carl Schwamberger » 26 Jul 2023 17:34

Trying to recall how many times i've seen this one, or a variation thereof posted in assorted websites.

My favorites are those with irony. ie: A Jewish art dealer in Vienna manages to market young Adolfs work at ridiculous premium prices, making Hitler wealthy and the darling of the traditional art fans in Germany.

... in the 1920s successful artist Hilter collaborates with young architect Albert Speer.

...in the 1940s French and other European cultural mavens decry and wring hands over the "invasion" of the 'Aryan' art styles of Hilter and his German followers who now dominate the European art and popular decoration styles.

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Re: Hitler joins an art academy in Munich

Post by ShindenKai » 29 Jul 2023 19:34

Like with most interests/hobbies/activities people tend to stay within their area of interest. AFAIK, hitler never painted or drew anything remotely similar to a propaganda poster. Again, AFAIK he was interested in architecture/landscapes. In the art world that's not just a leap, that's a chasm.

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Re: Hitler joins an art academy in Munich

Post by T. A. Gardner » 23 Sep 2023 01:24

This is why Hitler is inevitable...

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