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Post by Rommel » 27 Mar 2002 16:19

Gepp at this very moment the UDMR ( Democratic Union of Magyars in Romania ) is in power together with PSD (Democratic Socialist Party).Without UDMR support the PSD would not have a majority in Parliament and therefore no power....so if Hungarians are mistreated they are mistreated by Hungarians political formations too....I rest my case

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Post by Geppistoly Katona » 28 Mar 2002 00:16

The Demecratic Union of Magyars in Rumania is very against alot of the things that are going on in Rumania, am I wrong??? And your Prime Minister is not part of the UDMR.... So technically they are not in power.....Like i said, all that the Hungarians in Rumania have is paid for by the Hungarian Government [ the UDMR would be considered part of it ]. And the PSD is not the UDMR now is it??? So in no way is the UDMR in power even if they back the PSD that would be like saying that Enron is in power because they backed the Republican party...It isn't true...I rest my case...
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Post by Rommel » 28 Mar 2002 00:58

if they are so against many things in Romania why don t they make something about...why do they STILL back up the romanian government
Questions
q1:would you like to have Hungarian as an official language
q2:would you like that every Hungarian ethnic to be able to express in Hungarian, to go to Hungarian schools,
q3:would you like more Hungarians in power?


Romania from the point of treating minorities is the most advanced in Europe.I do not deny that might be some facilities for Hungarians in Romania but they are applicable in Hungary not Romania....as far as I know is our national policy to treat all minorities the right way , and that not because we get paid....rest my case also

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Post by Rommel » 28 Mar 2002 01:00

and btw you won t expext to have a Hungarian Prime minister in Romania...that is completely non sense...and here you must agree with me...is like I would expect a Romanian Prime minister in Hungary...and I won t propose something as stupid as that... :lol: :lol: :lol: regards

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Post by Geppistoly Katona » 28 Mar 2002 05:24

answers

q1: I would like to have Hungarian as an official language, not only because i can't speak Rumanian because it is part of Hungarian Culture i think every race should be able to speak the language of their culture...

q2: i think all people in Hungary and Hungarians in general should learn Hungarian history as opposed to Rumanian history...So yes in Rumania they should have their own special schools.

q3: Well as you know i am an extremist and i would like it if all of the Bulkans were under Hungarian Control if not all of Europe though i think Germany deserves a chunk of it, and i think France should be wiped out and put under German control...



And you say that Rumania is the most advanced in Europe...Absolutely not true. Hungary is more accepting and they are the ONLY country in Europe that actually welcomes gypsies [ i know Ovidius is throwing a fit now because he hates gypsies, which i happens to make up the 1/26th of my blood 25/26ths Magyar, so i just consider myself Magyar, but don't mistake it i am part Roma, very small part though...] infact they have the largest Roma population in Europe, and naturaly Gypsies make up the largest Minority in Hungary. In Rumania Gypsies are driven from their homes and slaughtered [ mostly by Rumanian citizens but authorities just sit back and let it happen ]. this is not limited to Rumania all over Europe with the exception of Hungary it happens to the gypsies they are hated with an unatural sort of hatred throughout Europe. In some places there is sanctioned killing of Roma...


And not to mention hungary has one of the best economies in Europe, so in that sense they are more powerful than Rumania, i think they are more powerful than Rumania in every sense including that they are part of NATO...
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Post by Geppistoly Katona » 28 Mar 2002 05:26

oh and i don't like the Rumanian language because it is a Latin based language....boring :roll:
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Post by Ebusitanus » 28 Mar 2002 05:30

The only bore here is you dimwit! :roll:

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Post by Benoit Douville » 28 Mar 2002 07:35

Geppistoly Katona,

I am really disapointed by your last comment...

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Romania today and in the past

Post by Cezarprimo » 28 Mar 2002 15:07

Geppistoly Katona, hungarians in today Romania live very good, just look at CNN, BBC or read NYT or Washington Post, everybody is prizing Romania for the way they treat their hungarian minority. Even the fact that Romania didn't plunged in an ethnic conflict like Yugoslavia, tells a lot about how the romanians and hungarians get along in Transylvania. One should encourge this instead of looking for conflicts...

As for the past, I know you will not admit it, but when hungarians got to Transylvania, they found romanians there.

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Post by Victor » 28 Mar 2002 21:16

You guys are WAAAAAAAAAAY of topic!!! Can we get back to it?

Geppistoly Katona originally said:
Your wrong, a clear mile ahead of any German troops was the Hungarian 1st Parachute battalion. They were throughout the campaign ahead of the Germans...Are you saying they weren't as important as German infantry???


What part of GERMAN MECHANIZED FORCES didn’t you understand? Read the posts carefully!
Antway are you saying that ONE battalion was more important then the German armored and mechanized divisions that invaded Greece and Yugoslavia? The Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler was among them.
It is my understanding that the Balkan campaign was the last successful Blitzkreig operation. I think that even if Italian and Hungarian troops saw the most action (as you said before without providing any figures to back it up), their role in the offensive was limited compared to the Germans.

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Post by Marcus » 28 Mar 2002 22:02

This thread has gone way off topic.

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