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Re: I agree with Timo

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Post by Birgitte Heuschkel » 21 May 2002, 13:12

Zendar wrote:Everyones grandpa or uncle was some damn war hero. lol
Nuh uh. My great-grandfather got enlisted to the German side in WWI but died in Rensburg from a throat ailment before even seeing the front. His widow, living in Denmark still, used to assault offending Germans during WWII occupation verbally in their own language, sprinkled with Sudetenland curses, asking what their mothers would think if they could see their sons now. Apart from that little image of a strong woman, no heroes that I know of in my past.

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Post by Ovidius » 06 Jul 2002, 01:24

Timo wrote:Hmmm. I know quite some Leibstandarte veterans. One who's particularly helpfull with my research was 17 when he lost both his legs in the Ardennes. A frostbite caused by staying in a water filled cellar for several days during the defense of the Ferme Masure (Ster, near Stavelot). In the field hospital in Wanne he lost a foot, but the rotting process proceeded and little by little he lost both legs upto the knees. When I see men like him I can't smile reading this "fun". At 16 he was in the RAD and after that he was just pressed into an SS replacement unit and in the fall of 44 he transferred to the Leibstandarte. You think he enjoyed his time with the Division?
Which is supposed to mean what!? Everyone knows that some people die or are wounded in warfare, otherwise it won't be war anymore, but just a game. War is no game.

Anyway, just a few people chose SD or Gestapo, and nobody picked up the 36th Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS "Dirlewanger". Or the other notorious unit from the Warsaw uprising, known as "Kaminski Brigade" :mrgreen:

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Post by Phil V » 06 Jul 2002, 04:56

At the time I beleive that almost everyone would have got caught up in the moment.

If pressed to make a decision :

SS Regiment "Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler".

Sepp would have been an interesting person to watch operate....

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Post by Tolga Alkan » 07 Jul 2002, 21:17

Hmm,
i couldn't want to be a civilan(Allied bombings),not want to infantry man(Fates bad).May i could want to be enlisted in Luftwaffe.

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Post by ozs86 » 07 Jul 2002, 21:35

i would enlist to the french army and tell them to watch the ardennes in 1940 hell i would change the modern world...and be rich...

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Post by Birgitte Heuschkel » 11 Jul 2002, 21:07

Max Brandt wrote:At the time I beleive that almost everyone would have got caught up in the moment.

If pressed to make a decision :

SS Regiment "Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler".

Sepp would have been an interesting person to watch operate....
Interesting indeed. *laugh*

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Post by Benjamin Fanjoy » 11 Jul 2002, 21:19

I would join the Afrika Corps.

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Post by Heinz23 » 13 Jul 2002, 23:52

Actually, if I had my current beliefs and opinions, I would seek some resistance groups, for example Schwarze kapelle or maybe socialists (not KPD!!!!). If I haven't found them, I would join polish resistance circle in Berlin area (yes, they had it, created from polish workers and Silesian people who worked for Poland).
But if I hadn't my knowledge about Hitler and his regime... I would be probably a next piece of Kannonenfutter on Ostfront.
All you people say you would join Waffen-SS or something, but you are at most 'Auslander', so you could only join foreign legions and nothing more... I'm not better: with Volkslist nr 3 (my family had such) I wouldn't have a chance to achieve a better position than a worker or soldier.

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Post by Ovidius » 14 Jul 2002, 02:07

Heinz23 wrote:All you people say you would join Waffen-SS or something, but you are at most 'Auslander', so you could only join foreign legions and nothing more... I'm not better: with Volkslist nr 3 (my family had such) I wouldn't have a chance to achieve a better position than a worker or soldier.
Thread question says: "if you lived in the Third Reich" - supposedly as a citizen of the Reich.

1. If I was born in those times, in Romania, I would have been drafted into the Royal Romanian Army, and the attempt to flee to whatever country and join any organization there would have been considered desertion and punished as such.

Drafting in the Royal Romanian Army, in the known outcome of WWII would have meant:

a) be shot in combat;
b) be captured by Soviets and put to choose: either one of the two mixed Soviet-Romanian divisions, or the POW camp;
c) survive the war to face the Communist prisons;
d) survive the war with a dull enough combat record to convince the post-1948 authorities I'm not a concern - least bad alternative.

2. But if I lived in the Reich as a Reich citizen, and I had the opportunity to volunteer - this is hard choice. And not only in hindsight, but also from the 1940 volunteer's perspective. Most volunteers did not even know on which front they were going to be sent!

Whatever, if I was going to volunteer, I'd have chosen the Kriegsmarine. And this because the only risks faced were to drown, to be killed in explosions etc, or to be captured by Brits or Americans. None of these two perspectives - death or capture by Westerners - can be more gruesome than slow death in a Soviet POW camp.

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Post by Zachary » 21 Jul 2002, 00:26

If I lived in the Third Reich.....
I would first be in the Hitler Youth. We would all start there.
Then I would go into either-
a.) The Kreigsmarine. I would want to serve on a big ship possibly the Tirptz or Bismarck (if she doesn't sink)
b.) The Heer. I would like to serve on a Super Tiger tank.
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Post by M. Schroeder » 21 Jul 2002, 01:08

(if you are part of the Gestapo and don't step on any feet, you don't get killed).


Not exactly...

Paranoia was a such a fever pitch that Gestapo agents were turning each other in. You know its pretty bad when the people doing the watching are watching each other. Who would have WANTED to be the one to wrench a person from their screaming and crying family, knwing with certainty that they would be killed...all because someone snitched them off. In such instances, you were guilty until prven guilty.

In reality, 95% of the people here would have been obligated to join an armed branch of the service ( and not all would have made it into the SS), and probably 70% of those would have died on the Russian front.

Such glory, eh?

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Post by Tiwaz » 22 Jul 2002, 12:55

I would say that I would have liked to be in occupational force in Norway after fighting had stopped.

I have no desire to be in places where you can get killed easily.


Give medals to someone else and death at very old age to me.

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Post by Gott » 10 Aug 2002, 11:55

yes, i would join the luftwaffe as well, just like my grandfather.

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Post by Eva » 11 Aug 2002, 02:20

I'd like to think (in hindsight) that I'd have been working against the regime, hiding Jews and all. But I know myself, and the way I can get caught up in excitement. And, at the time- all of the National Socialist pageantry and propaganda was pretty exciting. Truth be told, I would have most likely have been the girl answering the phones and manning the front desk at the Brown House.

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Post by Geli » 11 Aug 2002, 03:44

If I was married, I probably would have wanted to form an organization called Hausfrauen Against The Fuehrer Sending Our Husbands To Die Needlessly. But, chicken that I am, I never would have actually started such a group. Perhaps I'd have joined a German Women's League choir.

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