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Officers on U-boot

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Post by Ste » 09 Jul 2011, 19:09

Good Evening.
My question is that: was the number of officers on a U-boot correlated to the dimension of the crew or not?
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Re: Officers on U-boot

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Post by Clio13 » 13 Jul 2011, 19:29

I think it rather depended upon availability of commissioned officers and this changed over time. In 1939-40 there were many experienced officers available

For instance U 33, a Typ VII b (as I recall) operating in 1940 had an Oblt. and an Lt. plus an Oblt-Ing and Lt-Ing at the time of her loss.

The U-boot branch greatly expanded in 1941. Apart from the growing list of casualties, experienced crews were siphoned off to train for Elektroboote in 1944.

U 1302 a Typ VIIc/41 Atlantiker operating in 1945 in the same sector as U 33 had just an Lt and an Lt-Ing in terms of commissioned officers.

This was largely due to dilution and recycling of officers to meet with the demands of an expanding U-fleet.
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Re: Officers on U-boot

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Post by tigre » 05 Aug 2016, 04:23

Hello to all :D; after a while something more...............................................

Officers aboard!

Prior to the conflict the U boats usually had on board the commander (Kapitänleutnant) a duty officer (WO) and an engineer (LI). To sail for the first cruise of war (first operational patrol) on August 17, 1939 it was ordered that Station Commands will supply the boats of the 3 flotillas with 2nd watch-officers.(IIWO). For example the U 48 (Type VIIB) at the end of 1939 had the Kapitänleutnant (Herbert Schulze.); the IWO (Olt.z.S. Reinhard Suhren); the IIWO (Lt.z.S. Otto Ites) and LI (OLt. (Ing.) Erich Zürn).

Sources: http://www.uboatarchive.net/BDU/BDUKTB30247.htm
http://www.todocoleccion.net/militaria- ... ~x42421506

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The Kaleun Herbert Schulze
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Officers aboard the U 48 by December 1939; Otto Ites, Reinhard Suhren and Erich Zürn
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Post by tigre » 24 Jun 2017, 19:34

Hello to all :D; more: Officers aboard - Commissioning of U 42 (Type IX A)!

Sources: http://historisches-marinearchiv.de/pro ... var2=wert2
http://www.ebay.at/itm/U-Boot-Foto-U-42 ... 4664e6aea2

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Indienststellung of U 42 on July 15, 1939; on the reverse it reads Dau, Dünnebier (LI),
v. Gosen IWO). All of them were taken prisoner when the U boat was sunk on October 13,
1939 (IIWO Herward Engelsmann died in the sinking). But I guess were Dünnebier, v. Gosen
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Re: Officers on U-boot

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Post by tigre » 05 Jan 2019, 21:45

Hello to all :D; more...............................................

Officers aboard - “Westward-ho” U 37 – Hans-Günther Kuhlmann!

He joined the U 37 in Jan 1940 and served as the Third Watch officer (IIIWO) to June 1940 when he became the boat's Second Watch Officer (IIWO). In Oct 1940 Kuhlmann was again promoted within the boat, now becoming its First Watch Officer (IWO) until Feb 1941. He spend 193 days at sea on 8 patrols with the boat, getting valuable U-boat experience under capable officers.

Sources: https://www.ebay.de/itm/U-Boot-U-37-Olt ... 7675.l2557
http://www.ubootarchiv.de/ubootwiki/ind ... r_Kuhlmann

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The IWO of U-37, Oblt.z.S. H.G. Kuhlmann on deck.............
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Post by tigre » 03 Feb 2019, 20:32

Hello to all :D; more: Officers aboard - Erich Zürn!

He started well below and joined the then Reichsmarine at the beginning of 1925 as Heizer (stoker). Unteroffiziersanwärter (candidate NCO) between September 30, 1928 and April 2, 1929 at the Marineschule, Friedrichsort. As NCO served in U 3 under Kapitänleutnant Hans Meckel and U 26 under Korvettenkapitän Werner Hartmann. As of January 20, 1939 Candidate as Engineer Officer. From November 1, 1939 Leutnant (Ing).

Sources: http://www.ritterkreuztraeger.info/rk/x ... Z%FCrn.pdf
http://www.ubootarchiv.de/ubootwiki/ind ... _Z%C3%BCrn
https://picclick.de/OrigFoto-Wehrmacht- ... 21672.html

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Oblt.z.S. Erich Zürn after returning of a patrol in the U 48
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Post by tigre » 06 Apr 2019, 04:07

Hello to all :D; more: Officers aboard - “Westward-ho” U 37!
Sources: Feind im Fadenkreuz - U-Boot auf Jagd im Atlantik. Weltkrieg 2. Hartmann, Werner
http://www.ubootarchiv.de/ubootwiki/index.php/U_37
https://uboot-recherche.de/en/U-37

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A remarkable crew, IWO Oblt. z. S. Asmus Nicolai Clausen; IIWO Lt. z. S.
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The successful commander, Korvettenkapitän Werner Hartmann; in the
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Post by tigre » 19 Apr 2019, 18:42

Hello to all :D; more: Officers aboard - “Westward-ho” U 37!

Sources: https://www.ebay.com/itm/U-Boot-U-37-Ul ... 7675.l2557

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Crew of the U 37 working on deck, on the right the then IWO Oblt.z.S. Ulrich
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Post by tigre » 24 May 2019, 05:36

Hello to all :D; more: Another Oblt.z.S.
Oberleutnant z.S. Armin Georg Sagert - I. Offizier on U 37 - Spring 1941. But no records of him in the Historisches-Marinearchiv.
Sources: https://picclick.de/2WK-U-Boot-Foto-Por ... 86256.html

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Post by Axel N » 24 May 2019, 20:18

Hi Raul,

sorry to say but no officer with this name is known in the Kriegsmarine or has served on U 37 at the given time. Officers assigned to U 37 are well ocumented. The only officer in the U-boat arm with this family name was killed on U 160.

The fact that a person carries the binocular marked 1WO does not necessarily make him like that.

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Post by tigre » 25 May 2019, 01:09

Thanks for your reply shedding light on this :wink:. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Post by tigre » 28 Sep 2019, 01:13

Hello to all :D; more: Indienststellung U 65! In spite of what the source tells at that date was commissioning the U-Boot [Typ IX B] U 65. Sources: Foto * U-Boot U 953 Indienststellung 15.02.1940 bei Deschimag *2. WK / Weltkrieg
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commissioning the U boat U 65 [Typ IX B], on February 15, 1940; to the right, the tall
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Post by tigre » 09 Jun 2020, 19:39

Hello to all :D; more: Indienststellung U 591! as per the source it was the celebration due the commissioning of U 591 [TypVII C]. Sources: https://www.ebay.at/itm/Foto-U-Boot-591 ... Sw7z1aKsqu
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So they were the first officers' crew of U 591............................
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Post by tigre » 04 Aug 2020, 19:17

Hello to all :D; more...............................................

Officers aboard - “Westward-ho” U 37 – Visit to the city of Bayreuth - July 1940!

After 25 days, U 37 returned to Wilhelmshaven on June 9, 1940. In this patrol, it was able to sink 10 ships with a total of 41,107 TRB and damage 1 ship with 9,393 TRB. The U boat sailed again from Wilhelmshaven under Kplt. Victor Oehrn, on August 1, 1940. However, from what this album shows, in the middle of both patrols, the crew visited the city of Bayreuth in July ........ There was also Korvettenkapitän Werner Hartmann, former CO and at that time 1. Admiralstabsoffizier in the BdU General Staff.

Sources: http://www.u-historia.com/uhistoria/his ... 37/u37.htm
http://www.ubootarchiv.de/ubootwiki/index.php/U_37
https://gmic.co.uk/profile/1959-gunther ... ost&page=3

Did they visit Bayreuth for any particular reason? Cheers. Raúl M 8-).
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Korvettenkapitän Werner Hartmann greets the Gauleiter ??......................................
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Joint photo with Hartmann, the Gauleiter and back among others the Lt.z.S. Hans-Günther Kuhlmann...................
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Post by tigre » 12 Feb 2021, 21:06

Hello to all :D; more: Officers aboard - “Westward-ho” U 37!
Sources: https://picclick.de/U-Boot-Krieg-Foto-1 ... id=1&pid=1

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IWO Oblt.z.S. Asmus Nicolai Clausen; LI Oblt. (Ing) Gerd Suhren and WO Lt.z.S. Hans-Günther Kuhlmann...............
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