Unknown Badge, Milk Cow Type XIV / Monsun?

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Unknown Badge, Milk Cow Type XIV / Monsun?

Post by Losgehts » 02 Jan 2020 16:54

A German gentleman who recently sold it to me said that he himself got it many years ago, along with a cap badge from U 168 (Monsun-boat), from a household. To my knowledge there were only ten Type XIV U-Boats built in total but I could only find the "conning tower" emblems of 9 of them in Georg Hogel's book - the remaining one, U 464, is not incorporated into his book.

U 459, commissioned 15 November 1941, scuttled 24 July 1943
U 460, commissioned 24 December 1941, sunk 4 October 1943
U 461, commissioned 30 January 1942, sunk 30 July 1943
U 462, commissioned 5 March 1942, sunk 30 July 1943
U 463, commissioned 2 April 1942, sunk 15 May 1943
U 464, commissioned 30 April 1942, scuttled 20 August 1942
U 487, commissioned 21 December 1942, sunk 13 July 1943
U 488, commissioned 1 February 1943, sunk 26 April 1944
U 489, commissioned 8 March 1943, sunk 4 August 1943
U 490, commissioned 27 March 1943, sunk 12 June 1944

So I figured maybe it could have belonged to the crew of U 464. Or were perhaps supply surface ships (Versorger) also called Milk Cow or Sea Cow? Your help is much appreciated.
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Re: Unknown Badge, Milk Cow Type XIV / Monsun?

Post by oldhoweboy » 03 Jan 2020 16:57

This is really interesting!
Hope somebody will know
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Re: Unknown Badge, Milk Cow Type XIV / Monsun?

Post by Losgehts » 12 Jan 2020 23:51

Embleme U-boote Korrektur_0017 u464.jpg

This is taken from the 2005 addendum to Georg Hogel's "U-Boat Emblems...". Happened to come across it today.
The full document can be downloaded at https://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/ ... c=15152.0
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Re: Unknown Badge, Milk Cow Type XIV / Monsun?

Post by Losgehts » 12 Jan 2020 23:59

Any other comment that may add to the knowledge to a better understanding of these U-Boat emblems is welcome too, of course!

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Re: Unknown Badge, Milk Cow Type XIV / Monsun?

Post by oldhoweboy » 13 Jan 2020 11:30

Well done! Very interesting
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Re: Unknown Badge, Milk Cow Type XIV / Monsun?

Post by oldhoweboy » 13 Jan 2020 11:36

How do I download original??
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Re: Unknown Badge, Milk Cow Type XIV / Monsun?

Post by oldhoweboy » 15 Jan 2020 13:46

No one know??
Re identification, this form report of sinking " Between the time of her leaving the yards and sailing on her patrol, "U 464" carried an identification mark consisting of a red circle".
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Re: Unknown Badge, Milk Cow Type XIV / Monsun?

Post by oldhoweboy » 15 Jan 2020 13:49

From Royal Navy report on sinking
Between the time of her leaving the yards and sailing on her patrol, "U 464" carried an identification mark consisting of a red circle.
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