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Red subs?

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Post by PPoS » 07 Apr 2005, 20:01

I don't know if this is the right forum, but I don't know where to put the question. I saw the word sub so I thought this might be the right place :wink:

Look at this news paper, the large text says: "86 RED SUBS AID NAZI SEA RAIDERS".

What are the "Red Subs"?
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Post by Aufklarung » 07 Apr 2005, 20:28

"Red subs" = Soviet Submarines

I can't see the date on the newspaper but I guess it's speculation prior to "Barbarossa" when the Soviets and Nazi's were still in bed together.

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Post by PPoS » 07 Apr 2005, 22:11

Well, that makes sense. But why did they come up with this drastic story? Did they really think that Russian subs joined up with German subs?

And where comes the number 86 from?
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Post by Aufklarung » 07 Apr 2005, 22:24

Hmmmm, the media getting it wrong for the sake of a "sensational" story.................never!! :lol:

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Post by PPoS » 07 Apr 2005, 22:45

Hehe.. Word :D
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Post by Simon Gunson » 03 May 2005, 02:19

Possibly 86 was the number of subs in the soviet navy at that time ?

Have you got any of the text that you can transcribe for us please ?

Stalin was supplying oil to germany during the Battle of Britain. It may well be that the Soviets gave assistance to Hitler. I would want to hear more however.
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Post by Karl234 » 01 Jun 2005, 12:36

This is a speculation about that russian submarines fight on the Nazi-side when WW2 began. Germany had 51 submarines in that time and only 27 were able to drive big ocean missions.
So this newspaper speculated that the "Athenia", sunk 03.Sept.1939, was sunk by an russian submarine in Kriegsmarine service.
I think it`s a yellow-press report.
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Post by PPoS » 02 Jun 2005, 13:48

Yeah that sound pretty true. But it says that the red subs ARE aiding the german ships, and that "Claim one sank Athenia". So it looks like they knew for sure that the soviet subs were helping the germans and that they believed that one sank Athenia.
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Post by Ustuf » 02 Jun 2005, 18:18

Look at the name of the newspaper. It`s "Sunday Mirror"! Do you believe everything "Sun" or "Daily Mirror" write?!

Have a glance at today`s Sunday Mirror headlins:

HE SNORTED COCAINE AND HAD HIS WICKET WAY
ITALIAN STALLION GETS EX-RATING
BIG BROTHER 6 DAY 2: KOSIE REVEALS SHE'S A VIRGIN
GOVT DOCUMENTS DUMPED IN STREET

Hmm... that one seems to be quite interesting:

DEATHS MAR BANK HOLIDAY
Tragedy as one man drowned and another was feared dead trying to rescue a dog in rough seas
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Post by PPoS » 04 Jun 2005, 16:57

I don't believe much of what ANY newspaper writes until it can be proven true. I just thought this article was pretty interesting.
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