Kresy Jews moving to central and western Poland for better economic opportunities?

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Kresy Jews moving to central and western Poland for better economic opportunities?

Post by Futurist » 17 Jun 2021 20:42

Do we know just how many Kresy Jews moved to central and western Poland for better economic opportunities in the interwar era?

I'm asking because I know that Moscow's and St. Petersburg's Jewish populations massively increased between 1917 and 1939 in real life as Jews were able to begin flocking there for economic opportunities. So, I'm wondering if something similar could have happened with Polish Jews in regards to moving to central and western Poland.

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Re: Kresy Jews moving to central and western Poland for better economic opportunities?

Post by wm » 18 Jun 2021 23:37

Good luck with that in a country with no IDs and where the Jews frequently didn't register births of their children (so the only method to track population movements).

I don't believe central and western Poland were any promised land for the Jews, it was maybe for some Poles, e.g. Polish peasants/workers - but we know as a fact how scarce Jewish peasants/workers were.

For middle-class Jewish professionals, doctors, lawyers why not, but for Jewish merchants/peddlers not possible - they would encounter the extreme hostility of established Jewish/Polish businesses.

For the Poles Germany/America was the promised land, for the Jews only the US.

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Re: Kresy Jews moving to central and western Poland for better economic opportunities?

Post by Futurist » 20 Jul 2021 00:11

wm wrote:
18 Jun 2021 23:37
For the Poles Germany/America was the promised land, for the Jews only the US.
France?

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Re: Kresy Jews moving to central and western Poland for better economic opportunities?

Post by RG » 21 Jul 2021 07:26

Futurist wrote:
20 Jul 2021 00:11
wm wrote:
18 Jun 2021 23:37
For the Poles Germany/America was the promised land, for the Jews only the US.
France?
France was strongly antisemitic, for example family of Roman Polański moved from France to Poland because of antisemitism in France.

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Re: Kresy Jews moving to central and western Poland for better economic opportunities?

Post by Futurist » 25 Jul 2021 17:10

RG wrote:
21 Jul 2021 07:26
Futurist wrote:
20 Jul 2021 00:11
wm wrote:
18 Jun 2021 23:37
For the Poles Germany/America was the promised land, for the Jews only the US.
France?
France was strongly antisemitic, for example family of Roman Polański moved from France to Poland because of antisemitism in France.
I was asking more about Poles moving to France here.

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Re: Kresy Jews moving to central and western Poland for better economic opportunities?

Post by wm » 05 Aug 2021 18:46

Poles moved to France (and Belgium) to work there, mostly in coal mines and it was long-term employment with the possibility of naturalization (unlike the seasonal work in Germany). The communist leader of Poland - Gierek was one of them.
But I don't think the French with their high unemployment especially needed or accepted emigrants in large numbers - except in the mines.

I've read in the contemporary press in the thirties about a deportation of about 1000 Jewish peddlers (as burdensome aliens) from Belgium to Poland but clearly, they were illegal aliens (assuming the story was true.)

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