Streckenbach wrote:Hallo everybody,
very interesting your little ,but long lasting quarrel.But fact is as well Poland dosn´t existed up to the WW I.
I don't know who taught you history but you should sue him/her for his ignorance and the fact you ridicule yourself on an Internet forum because he/she has not taught you history properly. You have an article about the first Polish state:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... %931385%29
Now you can claim you are more knowledgeable than your teacher. Let's imagine me claiming that a German state had not existed before 1871. If any German members read something like that they would come to a conclusion something is wrong with me and I need a help of a good specialist. Got the point?
Streckenbach wrote:It was founded new after WW I.
Nobody exactly knows when it was founded but it was Christianized in 966. We don't have any diaries from the pagan era but the state must have been founded before.
Streckenbach wrote:[...]by the winning nations on cost of its neighbors,mainly germany.
Wrong again - mainly Russia.
Read about the partitions of Poland and you can express your opinion if something like that was fair:
Streckenbach wrote:My graetgrandfather was
born at a little town near Bromberg,as a german,with german name and german nationality,so as well my grandfather and my father.
I can say the same about my grandparents who were born as Poles in the lands that belong to Ukraine now.
Streckenbach wrote:After the first WW,when the province Posen became polish[...]
No, Greater Poland province had been Polish very long time before it became German in 1793. Read the second article about the partitions of Poland and you will have a chance to be a teacher as I see something is wrong with German history education. We can argue about some matters, and there is nothing wrong in that, but some things are FACTS and are unarguable.
Streckenbach wrote:[...]they all were kicked out,when they refused
to take the polish nationality and went to Pommern/Cammin.After the second WW,they were kicked and beaten out
again,because Pommern became polish up to the river Oder.
I can say the same about my family who was living near Lwów/Lviv before WWII. The difference between us is, my family spoke a perfect Ukrainian despite of being Polish and I've never claimed there had not been a Ruthenian state in these lands.
Streckenbach wrote:When I came back to Cammin,about 10 tears ago, it was called Kamien-Pommerski and one could see that there never are any sign of german culture.
It also happened to the Polish towns that belonged to Poland before 1945 or 1795.
Streckenbach wrote:The Dom of Cammin which was allways a protestant church,of course was catholic,but not only from 1945 onwards,"but allways."
At least it had not been demolished or transformed into a depot as it happened to numerous Polish churches in the lands that we lost after WWII.
Streckenbach wrote:On the graveyard in Heidebrink I was trying to find some sign of my grandparents searching for the tombstones,there was none.But tombstones with polish names and polish lenguage are starting from May 45 onwards.No polish subject died before 45 ?
I was living in a Polish town that had belonged to Germany till 1945 before I moved to the UK. There is a lot of German graves and they are kept in a very good condition. Some Germans visit them every year and some pay money to local Polish people to take care of the graves.
The whole polish history on pommern and Westprussia are a fake,in order to claim some rights on this area.
No comment. Improve your education first and we can discuss about it.
whatever your say and whatever you come up with,like maps ,census figures etc. it,s just fake and lies,like polish claims on Lithuinia and Galicia.
First of all I belong to the people who think Vilnius should not have belonged to Poland after WWI. However Our Great Leader, Józef Piłsudski, who considered himself a Lithuanian, had totally different thoughts.
Now please use some logic and make a proper conclusion - as the Poles managed to get 70+% of votes in Vilnius disctict in the last elections, although their number is significantly lower in the area than it used to be before WWII as many of them had been deported to Siberia, killed or expelled to Poland after WWII, are the provided numbers so fake?