Why didn't Poland ask for Subcarpathian Ruthenia after the end of World War I?

[Futurist]

Why didn't Poland ask for Subcarpathian Ruthenia after the end of World War I? After all, controlling Subcarpathian Ruthenia would have given Poland access to its friend and ally Hungary.

[wm]

Poland was barely able to gain Galicia. Subcarpathian Ruthenia was quickly occupied by the resorting to military faits accomplis Czechs (simultaneously with Slovakia and Sudetenland) so it wasn't even possible.

[Futurist]

Poland was barely able to gain Galicia. Subcarpathian Ruthenia was quickly occupied by the resorting to military faits accomplis Czechs (simultaneously with Slovakia and Sudetenland) so it wasn't even possible.

Poland beat the Bolsheviks rather decisively, no?

[Sid Guttridge]

What would the grounds of such a claim be?

Sid.

[Steve]

Apparently the area was once part of the kingdom of Galicia/Volhynia which in 1349 was annexed by the Polish King Casimir III. This was 671 years ago which if compared to territory successfully claimed in parts of the Middle East is a relatively short period of time. Poland should immediately request the return of Sub Carpathian Ruthenia. If the request is refused perhaps the recent example of Crimea is the way to proceed.

[wm]

Poland beat the Bolsheviks rather decisively, no?

At that time the territory was firmly in Czechs hands and possession is nine-tenths of the law.

Another thing, Poland wanted the territory to return to its former legitimate owner Hungary.

[Futurist]

Poland beat the Bolsheviks rather decisively, no?

At that time the territory was firmly in Czechs hands and possession is nine-tenths of the law.

What's the other one-tenth?

Another thing, Poland wanted the territory to return to its former legitimate owner Hungary.

Why?

[Futurist]

Apparently the area was once part of the kingdom of Galicia/Volhynia which in 1349 was annexed by the Polish King Casimir III. This was 671 years ago which if compared to territory successfully claimed in parts of the Middle East is a relatively short period of time. Poland should immediately request the return of Sub Carpathian Ruthenia. If the request is refused perhaps the recent example of Crimea is the way to proceed.

Poland doesn't actually have a border with Subcarpathian Ruthenia nowadays--or at the very least not a very long one. So, this won't work right now. As for Crimea, it was Russian as late as 1954 and Russia became severely alienated from the West as a result of its and its support for the Donbass rebels. Would Poland really be willing to engage in such alienation?

BTW, Poland claimed the Recovered Territories based on an even older historical connection.

[Futurist]

What would the grounds of such a claim be?

Sid.

Unifying the western Ukrainians under Polish rule?

[wm]

Another thing, Poland wanted the territory to return to its former legitimate owner Hungary.

Why?

Because it was a former Hungarian territory, and according to the Poles Hungarian claims were valid. This is why Poland never ratified the Treaty of Trianon.

Poland only tried to recover its own territories after the partitions were declared null and void. After such a long occupation the Poles rejected any thoughts of aggression against others.

It's not about the other one-tenth, the point is the possessor enjoys an advantageous political position.

[Futurist]

Another thing, Poland wanted the territory to return to its former legitimate owner Hungary.

Why?

Because it was a former Hungarian territory, and according to the Poles Hungarian claims were valid. This is why Poland never ratified the Treaty of Trianon.

Poland only tried to recover its own territories after the partitions were declared null and void. After such a long occupation the Poles rejected any thoughts of aggression against others.

Were the partitions declared null and void at Versailles? Because Polish uprisings in Posen began in December 1918, I believe.

It's not about the other one-tenth, the point is the possessor enjoys an advantageous political position.

Gotcha.

[Futurist]

BTW, did Poles also refuse to recognize Romania's claims to Transylvania and Bukovina and Czechoslovakia's claims to Slovakia?

[wm]

Those were other people's problems, but the Hungarians, because of common history, were and are considered friends and brothers in arms.

[Futurist]

Those were other people's problems, but the Hungarians, because of common history, were and are considered friends and brothers in arms.

And Poland doesn't feel the same way about the Romanians?

[Futurist]

BTW, wm, why didn't Poland claim Bukovina after the end of World War I? Bukovina, after all, did have a Polish minority:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... -Bucov.png



I'm presuming that Poland didn't want to alienate Romania over this issue, correct?