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Strange Sign/Notice

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Post by von thoma » 15 May 2023, 06:36

Can someone tell me what the meaning of this Sign/Notice is ?
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Post by crolick » 15 May 2023, 09:14

That it was not allowed for SS and Police staff to enter given premises


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Post by von thoma » 15 May 2023, 10:49

Thanks crolick,

That's what I thought, but I still don't understand what kind of premises they weren't allowed access to, being SS and Police in Poland. :?
Some example ?
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Post by gebhk » 15 May 2023, 18:08

A brothel staffed by 'racially inappropriate' sex workers?

Or a hoax of some sort - cf the spelling 'Standortfuhrer' (ie location guide????)?

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Post by wwilson » 16 May 2023, 20:45

@gebhk

Would "Standortführer" be "garrison commander" ?

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Post by gebhk » 17 May 2023, 10:49

You may well be right Wwilson, that sounds quite reasonable.

However, I still think this sort of thing as a hoax would have appealed to the Polish sense of humour :) .

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Post by crolick » 18 May 2023, 22:47

wwilson wrote:
16 May 2023, 20:45
Would "Standortführer" be "garrison commander" ?
https://www.forum.axishistory.com/viewt ... 8&t=234403

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Post by wwilson » 19 May 2023, 13:50

@crolick

Thank you.

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Post by wwilson » 19 May 2023, 13:52

@gebhk

Yes, I hold no position as to who made it.

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Post by wm » 19 May 2023, 14:58

I suppose that was an infectious disease area, ward (for the Poles or Jews), or something like that.
And they really were sometimes/always(?) forbidden to enter there for obvious reasons.

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Post by gebhk » 19 May 2023, 20:06

Hi Wm
That too is not impossible but seems odd. If the issue was a health hazard, surely everyone would be banned not just SS/Police? And would it not be be a medical notice rather than a police one?

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Post by wm » 19 May 2023, 22:21

I suppose everybody was banned according to the laws of occupied Poland, but the SS and Police were above those laws, so they needed their own notice.
Even more, "everyone not allowed" (for example, the Jews and the SS) would be considered highly offensive and impossible.

Such a notice could have been placed at the entrance to an infectious ward of the Jewish hospital in the ghetto. Where except doctors only bored, marauding SS-men were expected.

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Post by gebhk » 20 May 2023, 01:41

Hi WM

With the constant infighting and empire-building within the Nazi regime, all sorts of weirdness is possible. Nevertheless I just can't see why a garrison commander would be signing off on a specific date for a specific group of people when the issue is one that effects everyone and is entirely predictable so that quarantine notices would be something any even half-assed public health organisation of the day would have 'on the shelf'. Cf photo below from the Warsaw Ghetto.

https://perspectives.ushmm.org/asset/1354

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Post by wm » 22 May 2023, 00:22

I had something less deadly in mind, a hospital ward in a ghetto, prison, or concentration camp.

Alternatively, restaurants for the Poles, where the Germans usually were forbidden to enter and mingle with the "natives" (or rather native women.) Assuming the SS didn't respect such restrictions, a separate notice was needed.

And anyway, the notice looks suspiciously pristine and perfect for comfort, as if it spent the entire 80 years in a bank vault.

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Post by GregSingh » 26 Jul 2023, 07:50

According to book: Stephan Jaeger, The Second World War in the Twenty-First-Century Museum; this sign is displayed in Oskar Schindler's Enamel Factory museum in Kraków.

Apparently this one and Für die Wehrmacht verboten came from some restaurants.

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