French DI/DIM with hand grenades stock 1940

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French DI/DIM with hand grenades stock 1940

Postby Kelvin » 01 Jan 2018 09:25

Hello, I would like to ask any number of hand grenades or VB grenades in standard French DI and Dim in May 1940, any member had data on that ?

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Re: French DI/DIM with hand grenades stock 1940

Postby alain adam » 02 Jan 2018 22:16

Except some theoritical datas , maybe, i don't have this kind of datas , sorry .

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Re: French DI/DIM with hand grenades stock 1940

Postby Kelvin » 03 Jan 2018 06:15

Hello, Alain, if you have some theoritical data, may you send me ? Thank

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Re: French DI/DIM with hand grenades stock 1940

Postby alain adam » 25 Jan 2018 20:18

I'm searching today the average quantity of defensive and offensive grenade for each kind of divisions . i will inform you as soon i've something .

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Re: French DI/DIM with hand grenades stock 1940

Postby Kelvin » 26 Jan 2018 06:30

Hi, Alain, thank for your reply. I see some sources on website like Stephane Commant French OOB, one French squad only had eight VB grenade , I think too little for combat. If you have hand grenade or VB quantity information, hope u can share with us, thank

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Re: French DI/DIM with hand grenades stock 1940

Postby alain adam » 29 Jan 2018 22:50

Hi Kelvin ,
Each group of ( french ) twelve mens had one grenadier with tromblon VB , witch one carry 8 VB grenades . On section level , we have then 3 grenadiers plus one caporal grenadier , again with a launcher and 8 grenades . It means 4*8 = 32 Vivien Bessiere grenades .
For hand grenades , i still have not real numbers, but if we consider , let's say 2 offensive hand grenades per voltigeur , we will have 8 hand grenades per group ( so again 32 per section ) .
The first one could be throw up to 170 meters, the hand grenade around 20 meters ( german hand grenade , a little bit more , let's say 30 to 40 meters with "catapult effect" for stielhandgranate , 20 meters for Eihandgranate ) . For the numbers , it should be 10 to 15 grenades for a german group ( so 40 to 60 for a section ) . But i need to check real dotations for hand grenades , for each country ...

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Alain
ATF40 ( Armée de Terre Française 1940 ) : French ground army in 1940 , website atf40.fr

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Re: French DI/DIM with hand grenades stock 1940

Postby Kelvin » 30 Jan 2018 08:01

Hello, Alain, thank for your help. German 's scale of hand grenades stock was different after 1942. It increased significantly in Russian battlefield.


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