ID of French artillery piece

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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by Manuferey » 03 Jan 2017 23:51

Manuferey wrote:Sturm78,
Very interesting to see the front of this unknown gun. It looks like an ad-hoc assembly based on the 25 mm barrel. Let me check with a French forum on the French Army in 1940.
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The gun has been ID'd on the French forum as the rare 25 mm SA Type 1935 from APX ("Ateliers de Puteaux"). 8-)

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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by Sturm78 » 08 Jan 2017 21:14

Emmanuel wrote
The gun has been ID'd on the French forum as the rare 25 mm SA Type 1935 from APX ("Ateliers de Puteaux"). 8-)
Thank you very much for your help, Emmanuel... :wink:

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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by Sturm78 » 16 Oct 2017 21:21

Hi all,

Does somebody know the exact french designation for this bunker 75mm Mle 1897 gun ??

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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by chiangshan » 11 Nov 2018 03:51

Anyone knows this?
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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by ludvig » 13 Nov 2018 12:29

Hello ,
Interesting photo ,
The gun is a 75 mm Mle 1897 .
The Franch have i 1939 a lot of coast artillery in this area but on Affut Mle 1916
fixed carriage of crinoline type .

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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by chiangshan » 14 Nov 2018 09:11

ludvig wrote:
13 Nov 2018 12:29
Hello ,
Interesting photo ,
The gun is a 75 mm Mle 1897 .
The Franch have i 1939 a lot of coast artillery in this area but on Affut Mle 1916
fixed carriage of crinoline type .

ludvig
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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by Sturm78 » 05 Dec 2018 22:21

Hi all,

According to Wikipedia this is an 155mm Mle 1918 gun but ...I am not sure.
The wheels and other details are different but I can see also some differences with the 155mm Schneider Mle 1917 gun.... :?

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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by Manuferey » 06 Dec 2018 02:23

Sturm78 wrote:
05 Dec 2018 22:21
Hi all,

According to Wikipedia this is an 155mm Mle 1918 gun but ...I am not sure.
The wheels and other details are different but I can see also some differences with the 155mm Schneider Mle 1917 gun.... :?

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Sturm78,

Good catch ! The Mle 1918 did not have handwheels on the side but the Mle 1917 did. And the carriage on the picture definitely looks like the one of the Mle 1917.

The soldiers on the right look American. Therefore, the gun could an Americanized version of the Mle 1917, starting with the removal of the shield to save weight. :idea:

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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by Sturm78 » 09 Dec 2018 21:40

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Good catch ! The Mle 1918 did not have handwheels on the side but the Mle 1917 did. And the carriage on the picture definitely looks like the one of the Mle 1917.

The soldiers on the right look American. Therefore, the gun could an Americanized version of the Mle 1917, starting with the removal of the shield to save weight. :idea:
Thanks for your answer, Emmanuel

Apart of the shield, this gun have not the wheel under the barrel, typical of the Mle 1917.....

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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by Clive Mortimore » 23 Dec 2018 21:07

Sturm78 wrote:
09 Dec 2018 21:40
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Good catch ! The Mle 1918 did not have handwheels on the side but the Mle 1917 did. And the carriage on the picture definitely looks like the one of the Mle 1917.

The soldiers on the right look American. Therefore, the gun could an Americanized version of the Mle 1917, starting with the removal of the shield to save weight. :idea:
Thanks for your answer, Emmanuel

Apart of the shield, this gun have not the wheel under the barrel, typical of the Mle 1917.....

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Hi Strum

The little wheel was a pulley for the cable used to pull the recoiling masses on to the carriage when the weapon was moved in two parts. Could the American one be post WW1 and has as suggested had its shield removed to make it lighter. Possibly as one load behind a prime mover, therefore no need for the pulley? There were a lot of post WW1 experiments with artillery in the USA in motorisation.
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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by Sturm78 » 25 Dec 2018 21:58

Hi Clive,

Yes, it is very possible that you are right...

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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by schwarzermai » 29 Dec 2018 07:19

Why do you think these soldiers are american?
For me its looks like an 15,5 cm Kanone 425 (f) in german use somehere - maybe norway - at a Heeresküsten-Artillerie-Unit

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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by Manuferey » 29 Dec 2018 14:21

schwarzermai wrote:
29 Dec 2018 07:19
Why do you think these soldiers are american?
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Hi Uwe,

The uniform of the soldier, 3rd form the left, with the hat and the cavalry pants, and the hats and baggy clothes of the other characters, they all look American to me.

The gun has many details that differentiate it from the 155 mm L Mle 1918 (15,5 cm K425(f)): see my post above "The Mle 1918 did not have handwheels on the side but the Mle 1917 did. And the carriage on the picture definitely looks like the one of the Mle 1917."

For instance, the carriage of the K425(f) is very similar to the carriage of the 15,5 cm C Mle 1917 (15,5 cm sFH414(f)).


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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by Sturm78 » 09 Feb 2019 16:10

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this gun ?

Sorry, I don`t remember the exact source...
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Re: ID of French artillery piece

Post by karlik » 10 Feb 2019 10:30

Sturm78 wrote:
09 Feb 2019 16:10
Can somebody identify this gun ?
Hi!
I saw this photo signed as "Canon colonial de 75 Le Masne-Vallet"

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