Id french AA guns

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by gluon » 23 May 2016 22:16

I found another topic in this forum in which we can find several photos of French 75mm model 1922-1924 AA. From these photos, we can confirm the type of this artillery. You are correct, ROLAND1369 :thumbsup:
(PS: however, I don't know if this artillery was salvaged from the French Lamotte-Picquet or not.)
M.K.B. Seebahnhof (Cherbourg)
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=87792

Two photos from that topic (found in ebay, by jopaerya):

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ROLAND1369 wrote:My best guess is a 75 MM m1922-24 naval aa gun, most likely salvaged from the wreck of the French light cruiser Lamotte-Picquet which was sunk in Saigon during 1945.

Thank you, I think they're looked similiar indeed

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by ROLAND1369 » 24 May 2016 13:30

I said "most likely" not for shure from the French cruiser, as these were on board the ship.

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 31 May 2016 11:01

Hi all,

I am not sure but I think an 75mm Mle 1922 french AA gun:

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Manuferey » 01 Jun 2016 01:52

No, the breach block is much bigger and some other details are different. I think it is a 90 mm CCA Mle 1926-30 on model 1931 carriage ("sur affût Mle 1931"), another naval AA gun.

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 01 Jun 2016 10:59

Emmanuel wrote
No, the breach block is much bigger and some other details are different. I think it is a 90 mm CCA Mle 1926-30 on model 1931 carriage ("sur affût Mle 1931"), another naval AA gun.
Thanks, Emmanuel

I am a bit confused with the 90mm french AA guns. We have

90mm Mle 1926
90mm Mle 1926-30 sur affût Mle 31
90mm Mle 1926-30 sur affût Mle 32
90mm Mle 1932 sur affût Mle 1932
90mm Mle 1939

Which are the differencies between all of these models ?? :?

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by gluon » 01 Jun 2016 22:43

It seems that both these types of French AA, 75mm and 90mm, had firstly been designed and developed for naval air defense. Then, they were adapted/modified for ground-based batteries and even a mobile version (canon de 90 mm CA Mle 26-30 sur affût remorque Mle 1932).
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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Oct 2016 09:55

Hi all,

An image from Ebay: I think a 75mm Mle 1930 gun

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 10 Jan 2017 21:14

Hi all,

105mm CA Mle 1917 or Mle 1917/34 PF battery

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Tony Williams » 10 Jan 2017 22:03

I have posted Version 3 of my article on French 37 mm AA guns, with more info and a comparative photo of all of the rounds of ammo (I've had some replicas made from drawings). See: http://quarryhs.co.uk/37mmFrench.pdf Any comments welcomed!
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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 01 Mar 2017 15:49

Hi all,

75mm Mle 1922 naval AA gun (or Mle 1924 or Mle 1927), I think

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 03 Jun 2017 18:17

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this AA gun ??

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Manuferey » 04 Jun 2017 01:18

90 CA modèle 1932

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Jun 2017 08:24

Emmanuel wrote
90 CA modèle 1932
Hi Emmanuel,

According to A. Chazette there were three different versions of the 90mm french AA guns:

version Marine de 90 mm fixe CCA Mle 26-30 sur affût Mle 31
version Marine de 90 mm CA Mle 26-30 sur affût remorque Mle 1932
version armée de terre DAT (défense antiaérienne du territoire) 90 mm mobile Mle 1939, 1939s et 1940

Which are the differencies between Mle 26-30 sur affût remorque Mle 1932 and 90 mm mobile Mle 1939, 1939s et 1940 ?? :?

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Manuferey » 04 Jun 2017 15:41

Sturm78,

From what I understand:

1) The 90 mm Mle 1926-30 (90 mm CCA Mle 26-30 sur affût Mle 31) is the 90 mm Mle 1926 naval gun mounted on a new fixed carriage. It looks similar to the 75 mm CA Mle 1924.

See a picture here:
http://www.museeducasque.com/HTMeng/MIC004eng.htm

or here:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 7#p1532907

2) The 90 mm Mle 1932 is the gun that Alain Chazette calls "90 mm CA Mle 26-30 sur affût remorque Mle 1932". You can see that the mounting including the recoil mechanism looks very different from the Mle 26-30 above. The tube itself looks different too. You posted pictures of the Mle 32 here :wink: :
viewtopic.php?f=70&t=111267&start=1710

It was identified by Guy François as "canon de 90 modèle 1932/C 1932 sur affût M.C.A modèle 1932 de 90".

3) The 90 mm Mle 1939 has big arms with pullies. It looks like a Mle 1932 with a lighter mobile carriage. See the thread about 9 cm Flak M39(f) here:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=135505

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Jun 2017 17:42

Hi Emmanuel,

Do you know which is the correct designation: 90 mm CA Mle 26-30 sur affût remorque Mle 1932 or 90mm modèle 1932/C 1932 sur affût M.C.A modèle 1932 ??

It seems that this gun had a lateral shield...

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