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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 15 Sep 2010 11:19

Hi all,

Two images of 75mm Mle1932 french AA guns:

Images from Ebay
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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 17 Sep 2010 09:19

Hi all,

I found this image on http://www.ioh.pl Forum. 75mm Mle1897 gun but I never had seen the Mle1897 on this pedestal mount and on a truck. I do not know if it is a AA mount or not.
Does anyone have more information?

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Manuferey » 18 Sep 2010 02:31

This is not an AA mount but a mounting originally used in coastal defense. There were actually two versions for coastal defense:

- “canon de 75 Mle 1897 sur affût 1916 de 75”. It is better known under its shortened name “canon de 75 G”. The pedestal was called “à crinoline”. See an example here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/ ... 2_crop.jpg

- “canon de 75 Mle 1897 sur affût 1916 de 75 approprié pour le tir des obus éclairants” i.e. “designed for firing lighting shells”. This is the model shown on Sturm’s picture.

(source: Magazine 39/45 No. 226)

Mounted on a truck it is most probably an improvised AT version used by the Free French forces in North Africa. See an example here (but not with a Mle 1916 carriage):

viewtopic.php?f=85&t=79794

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 19 Sep 2010 12:52

Thank you for your information, Emmanuel.

I have some doubts: The "affût 1916 à crinoline" seems different from my photo. :?

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Manuferey » 19 Sep 2010 15:20

Sturm,

Your photo shows the model "approprié pour le tir des obus éclairants" with a one piece conical pedestal. The "crinoline" pedestal is made of bars.

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 19 Sep 2010 21:08

Thanks again, Emmanuel

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 23 Sep 2010 15:08

Hi all,

A nice image from Ebay: 75mm Mle 1913-34 AA gun on De Dion Bouton SP chassis.

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 27 Sep 2010 20:49

Hi all,

A 75mm AA gun captured by germans. I think this gun is a belgium 75mm FRC Mle 1936 (french Mle1932 manufactured under license) because the wheels are different to the french 75mm Mle1932. Can somebody confirm this??

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 18 Oct 2010 09:49

Hi all,

Nobody for my last question?? :(

I need help with this french AA gun:

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by karlik » 18 Oct 2010 10:36

Possible Cannon de 75 mm Mle 17/34

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Oct 2010 10:45

Thank you, karlik.

In summary, we have:

75mm Mle 1913-34 SP with Mle 1897 barrel
75mm Mle 1917-34 with Mle 1928 barrel
75mm Mle 1933 with Mle ??? barrel
75mm Mle 1932

Any corrections or incorporation will be welcome.
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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by karlik » 20 Oct 2010 11:48

Sturm78 wrote:Thank you, karlik.
In summary, we have:
75mm Mle 1913-34 SP with Mle 1897 barrel
75mm Mle 1917-34 with Mle 1928 barrel
75mm Mle 1933 with Mle ??? barrel
75mm Mle 1932
Any corrections or incorporation will be welcome.
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The book of Stephane Ferrard "France 1940 L armement terrestre" has two tables
1) "Materiels equipes de la bouche a feu de 75 mm modele 1897" - gun with 1897 barrel
- AC modele 1913
- PF modele 1915
- PF modele 1939
(PF - platforme, AC- autocanon)
2)"Materiels equipes de la bouche a feu de 75 mm modele 1928" - gun with 1928 barel
- modele 1930
- modele 1932
- modele 1933
- modele 1917/1934

but in this book there is another table in which there is
- 75 mm mle 1915/34
- 75 mm mle 1897/39
- 75 mm mle 1928/39
????????????????

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Oct 2010 15:43

Thanks Karlik,

Do you have images of 75mm PF modele 1939 and 75mm modele 1930?

I think 75mm Mle 1932 barrel is different. Not Mle1928 barrel :? :?

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by karlik » 20 Oct 2010 16:47

Mle 1913
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Mle 1915
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Mle 1917
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Mle 1930
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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by karlik » 20 Oct 2010 16:50

Mle 1932
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Mle 1933
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Mle 1917/1934
Image

Mle 1897/1939 or 1939 ? (sorry, only a small format :( )
Image

All photos in RAR-archive
http://www.zshare.net/download/81771898d3d8a013/

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