Maginot Line bunkers

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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by Sturm78 » 20 Dec 2020, 22:19

Thank you very much for your help, ROLAND1369 ... :wink:

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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 21 Dec 2020, 18:06

Always glad to give what little help that I can.


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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by Jose85 » 14 Jan 2021, 21:05

"Bruille" -STG casemates with GFM?
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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by MLW » 15 Jan 2021, 22:13

The photos are of STG Blockhouse Bruille Sud located in Fortified Sector Escaut.

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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by Sturm78 » 11 Feb 2021, 01:06

Hi all,

Is this a Maginot Line bunker ?

Image from Ebay
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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by Sturm78 » 02 Mar 2021, 00:58

Hi all,

An image from Ebay

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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by Sturm78 » 21 Mar 2021, 22:35

Hi all,

An image from Ebay. I think a 135mm howitzer twin turret Type M1932... probably of Ouvrage Hochwald

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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by Sturm78 » 27 Oct 2021, 21:33

Hi all,

47mm or 37mm Mle 1934 gun ?

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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 28 Oct 2021, 18:27

I am not sure it is either. I have never seen an embrasure for the 47 or 37 mm which is taller than its width. Normally the reverse is true the embrasure is wider than its heights. This representing a desire for increased traverse over elevation. The embrasure shown seems to be more optimized for increased elevation, more of a requirement for a larger artillery type weapon. I admit that it does not match the 75 mm M 29 or M 32 casemate artillery weapons.

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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 28 Oct 2021, 18:35

Here are typical examples.
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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by Sturm78 » 28 Oct 2021, 23:12

Thanks for your answers, ROLAND1369

Perhaps the Ebay image is rotated.... :idea:

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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 29 Oct 2021, 16:29

I believe you have got it correctly. On your rotated view I see the broken concrete pieces ar now on the bottom of the embrasure as gravity would have them. As to the gun the 37 MM SA 34 has a round armored housing for the gunsight. In addition both the armored housing and the front of the recoil housing are flat. The sighting housing comes to the end of the recoil housing, See Pic 1. The 47 MM SA 34 has a much larger square housing which combines the recoil system and sight on the top center of the barrel. Its front is angled and set back from the recoil housing(1st barrel step). See pic 2. Both have a more rounded appearance. Based on examination of the photo I would give your pic an 80% chance of this being a 47 MM SA 34.
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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by Sturm78 » 10 Nov 2021, 23:25

Thanks for your answer, again, ROLAND1369 :wink:

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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 12 Nov 2021, 04:02

No problem. i spent a lot of time doing military intelligence stuff and the reason I say 80% is that enough physical features are present in the photos to rule out the 37 mm but not enough are present to conclusively rule in the 47 MM.

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Re: Maginot Line bunkers

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 12 Nov 2021, 17:30

What I am trying to say is that in intelligence the negative evidence of one does not provide positive evidence of the other.

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