Any Vichy submarines in Asia?
Any Vichy submarines in Asia?
Considering that Vichy France retained control over the Indochinese colonies, I was curious whether they operated any submarines in the Asia-Pacific region during WW2, either based out of Indochina or on cruises from European ports (similar to the German and Italian subs that went out there).
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Le Monge and Le Pégase came in march 1941 for 6 months, the last one remaining there for major refit unable to furnish further naval service and ended his life in these waters having been disarmed in 1944 and due to obstacles to repatriate it from Indochina
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Thanks. What port did these two subs stop at? And did that port have specialized sub pens/maintenance facilities?
Edit: I just found a mention on the internet that Pégase was taken over by the Japanese and stationed at Saigon. Is this true? What happened to her French crew after the Japanese took it over?
Edit: I just found a mention on the internet that Pégase was taken over by the Japanese and stationed at Saigon. Is this true? What happened to her French crew after the Japanese took it over?
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Actually French-speaking source about it on the web doesn't explain that at all, the Japanese are only mentionned as one of the causes it remained in the Indochinese waters
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9ga ... icard_48-4
Forming the 22nd division, le Monge and le Pégase are sent to Saïgon, where they arrive at mid-March 1941.
le Pégase visited the Indochinese ports of Cam Ranh, Tourane and Haiphong and then escorts a French freighter to the Pacific.
On his return on August 25th, he found the Japanese masters of Saïgon, where they arrived on July 31st.
He entered a big refit while the Monge left Saïgon, on September 7th, being reassigned to Diego-Suarez.
The end of the fairing took place in January 1942, one month after the entry into the war of the Japanese. Negotiations take place for several months to allow the return of the submarine in France, which is finally scheduled for 10th November 1942. But the allied landing in North Africa on November 8th forced the Japanese to cancel and then suspend the departure. He was laid off on 1st January 1943, immobilised in April and disarmed the 1st January 1944 and abandoned on a bank of the Arroyo de l'Avalanche, one of the tributaries of the Saïgon River, forming the northern limit of Saïgon.
On April 9th, 1951, his hull was towed and then stranded on a sandbar at the mouth of Bassac, in the Mekong Delta, to serve as bitter
no ideas about the fate of the crew, certainly remaining there due to the great isolation of the colony
his commandant Lieutenant de Vaisseau Mottez (until 1943) was on the cruiser Lamotte-Picquet in 1943-1945
http://memorial-aen.fr/detail.php?&id=1693
sailors of the Pégase in june 1939 the month where the French navy lost his twin-submarine Phénix in the indochinese waters (71 men✝, 15th june 1939)
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9ga ... icard_48-4
Forming the 22nd division, le Monge and le Pégase are sent to Saïgon, where they arrive at mid-March 1941.
le Pégase visited the Indochinese ports of Cam Ranh, Tourane and Haiphong and then escorts a French freighter to the Pacific.
On his return on August 25th, he found the Japanese masters of Saïgon, where they arrived on July 31st.
He entered a big refit while the Monge left Saïgon, on September 7th, being reassigned to Diego-Suarez.
The end of the fairing took place in January 1942, one month after the entry into the war of the Japanese. Negotiations take place for several months to allow the return of the submarine in France, which is finally scheduled for 10th November 1942. But the allied landing in North Africa on November 8th forced the Japanese to cancel and then suspend the departure. He was laid off on 1st January 1943, immobilised in April and disarmed the 1st January 1944 and abandoned on a bank of the Arroyo de l'Avalanche, one of the tributaries of the Saïgon River, forming the northern limit of Saïgon.
On April 9th, 1951, his hull was towed and then stranded on a sandbar at the mouth of Bassac, in the Mekong Delta, to serve as bitter
no ideas about the fate of the crew, certainly remaining there due to the great isolation of the colony
his commandant Lieutenant de Vaisseau Mottez (until 1943) was on the cruiser Lamotte-Picquet in 1943-1945
http://memorial-aen.fr/detail.php?&id=1693
sailors of the Pégase in june 1939 the month where the French navy lost his twin-submarine Phénix in the indochinese waters (71 men✝, 15th june 1939)
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Thanks for that information.