Help to Id. US artillery

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by LineDoggie » 25 May 2019 16:01

Carl Schwamberger wrote:
01 Mar 2019 05:58
von thoma wrote:
16 Feb 2019 07:34
Can you help me with this gun ?
It is possible to date the picture ? WWII, or Korea


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The uniforms look wrong for US Army. Could these soldiers be French with US made equipment?
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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by ROLAND1369 » 26 May 2019 13:10

This is one of a series of pictures taken at Fort MacArthur. Harbor Defenses of San Diego around 1943. The small rounds with the blue tips ar 37 MM Mark I practice shells from the 37 MM M1916 Ex caliber weapon. This was most likely used on the 4 155 MM M1918 GPF guns mounted on Panama Mounts on the fort. The medium sized rounds flanking these are 5 Inch Navy projectiles for the 5 inch 51 caliber battery emergency battery which, along with a similar 7 inch battery was mounted on the reservation. The coloring is the navy system and indicates a high explosive with tracer. In the navy system Blue paint does not indicate "Inert". The large projectiles are 14 inch AP Shells, probably Model 1909, on the Delivery tables being transferred to a Shot Cart. The yellow color indicates a loading of high explosive and the projectile was utilized in the 14 inch Disappearing Guns of which ther were 4 present on the Fort.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by ROLAND1369 » 26 May 2019 14:10

The color of the navy projectile is called by the Navy "Slate Grey". This indicates what the Navy calls "Common" which can best be described as semi armor piercing. The difference in projectile markings was totally different between Army and Navy. For instance, prior to 1943, in the navy "Black color" meant an Armor Piercing Projectile which could have an HE filler, while in the army "Black" meant a totally inert practice projectile.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 26 May 2019 14:53

Thank you very much for your help, ROLAND1369... :wink:

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by ROLAND1369 » 27 May 2019 14:51

Always glad to help. It is certainly easier when the right question is asked.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 02 Jun 2019 20:30

Hi all,

According to photo caption this is a gun of Fort Warren, Boston coastal defences. If this is correct there are two possibilities:
10inch gun M1888 or 12inch gun M1895.......Any idea ??

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by ROLAND1369 » 04 Jun 2019 15:17

Assuming, and this is a large assumption on all captions, that this is FT Warren this Battery Bartlett. The guns are 10 inch M1888MI guns on carriage Dissappearing M1894MI. As noted on the breech this gun no 2.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 07 Jun 2019 18:16

Thank you very much for your answer, ROLAND1369

The image is not from Ebay but from US National Archives....so I assume that the caption is correct with more probability.

Here another image form the same source. According to photo caption is the base platform of a 203mm 8in Vickers howitzer.
Is this correct ? :?

In the Wikipedia webpage ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_8-inch ... 80%93_VIII ) there are a description and a drawing of a firing platform but it seems very different to this image...

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 13 Jun 2019 20:25

Nobody for my last question ?'?

Well, here another coastal gun. According to photo caption, Fort Standish, Boston.
If this is correct I guess an 254mm 10in M1900 of Battery Burbeck or Morris....


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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by ROLAND1369 » 14 Jun 2019 15:23

You are correct. This is a 10 inch gun M1900 on Carriage DC M1901 and it is one of the batteries on Ft Standish.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 14 Jun 2019 16:03

ROLAND1369 wrote
You are correct. This is a 10 inch gun M1900 on Carriage DC M1901 and it is one of the batteries on Ft Standish.
Thanks, ROLAND1369.

Here, another nice image of the same source. Accoding to photo caption, Fort Andrews, Peddock's Island but I guess this is wrong as in Fort Andrews the only heavy coastal artillery were 12in M1890 mortars.

I think another 10in gun M1900 on Carriage DC M1901 gun, perhaps at Ft Standish....

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by ROLAND1369 » 17 Jun 2019 15:31

You are correct in weapon id and from the design of the emplacement it is indeed Fort Standish. Fort Andrews however had both 1890 and the later M1908 12 inch mortars.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 17 Jun 2019 20:39

ROLAND1369 wrote
You are correct in weapon id and from the design of the emplacement it is indeed Fort Standish. Fort Andrews however had both 1890 and the later M1908 12 inch mortars.
Thanks for your answer, ROLAND1369 ... :)

A more image from the Boston coastal defences: the gun seems a 254mm 10in M1888MI gun on Carriage Dissappearing M1894MI.
Any idea about the battery ?

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by ROLAND1369 » 20 Jun 2019 04:56

Again, you have asked the right question. I have been to this battery and use a version of this photo as my desktop background. This is a 10 inch gun M1888MI on carriage DC M1894MI. The location is Fort Strong, Harbor Defense of Boston. It is the number 2 emplacement (extreme right) of Battery Ward. This battery consisted of 2 weapons of this type. I could give you the serial numbers of the guns and mounts but that would be to far in the dirt.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Jun 2019 19:44

Thank you very much for your help, again, ROLAND1369 ... :)

A last image from the same source; According to photo caption an 10in gun....Model ? :?

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