I need help to Id US truck

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I need help to Id US truck

Post by Sturm78 » 11 Sep 2009 17:13

Hi all,

I found on Ebay this interesting image showing US trucks towing 76.2mm AA guns on M1918 mounts in Hawaii in 1930s. Can anyone identify the trucks?

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Bill Murray » 13 Sep 2009 19:58

Hola Sturm:

This is as close as I can get to your truck and it is pretty close.
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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Sturm78 » 14 Sep 2009 11:42

Thank you very much for your answer, Bill. :D

Although there are some small differences, I think it's the same truck.

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Sturm78 » 15 Sep 2009 10:48

Hi all,

Here another US truck (from Ebay.com) for Id. and other image of Standard B Liberty truck for Bill:

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Bill Murray » 15 Sep 2009 19:33

Hi Sturm:

Thanks for the additional photo of the modernized Liberty. If you have more such photos from Hawaii, please post them somewhere on the US Forum.

Your other photo is a GMC T-4 7 1/2 tonner of the year 1931. Examples were known to have been sent to Hawaii according to Fred Crismon's excellent book "U.S. Military Wheeled Vehicles".

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Sturm78 » 17 Sep 2009 11:58

Hi Bill,

Here another images from Ebay of US coast artillery and vehicles in Hawaii, 1935:
I hope you like.

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Sep 2009 14:11

...and other 3 images from Ebay:

Does anyone know the official US designation of sound locators?

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Bill Murray » 20 Sep 2009 22:45

Hola Sturm

Mil gracias para las nuevas. Totalmente nuevo para mi.

OK.

I have a book in my collection published by the Sperry Company sometime in the early 1930 period advertising for export their Anti-Aircraft Searchlight and Sound Locater equipment.

Sadly, they do not mention the official US Army designation number for the various items, but the photos show exactly the same searchlight, sound locater trailer and truck as in your photos. The searchlight is described as a 60" model.
For the moment, I cannot identify the truck but I will keep looking.

Regarding some of the other vehicles, the station wagons in the background of one of the photos are, I believe, Chevrolet models of 1935. The trucks with the machine guns and towing the smaller artillery are in my opinion Dodge/Fargo models of the 1933-1935 period.

Again, very interesting photos of an era not very well researched regarding the US forces in the 1930 period.

Bill

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Sturm78 » 21 Sep 2009 12:04

Hi Bill,

I'm glad you like the photos. Here other three more from Ebay:

Image 1: 76.2mm 3in AA guns being towed by GMC T-4 trucks, I guess
Image 2: same sound locators and searchlights than previous image but different trucks
Image 3: ??

Do you know anything about crawler tractor towing the 155mm GPF guns? I guess a Caterpillar old model tractor, no?


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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Bill Murray » 21 Sep 2009 20:14

Hi Sturm:

Some luck at last.

Today's last batch from the top to the bottom.
GMC T4 again
GMC T43
QMC (Quarter Master Corps) 3 ton 4X2 early 1930s.

The older truck with the searchlight and sound locator is a 1928 Duplex and the designation may be for the whole assembly, MV-1.

Bill

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by David Reasoner » 21 Sep 2009 21:48

Sturm78 wrote:Do you know anything about crawler tractor towing the 155mm GPF guns? I guess a Caterpillar old model tractor, no?
I believe they are the military version of the Holt 10-Ton model tractor:

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http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i8/dg ... rick05.jpg

http://www.steel-wheels.net/holt.html

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Unit ... -andre.jpg

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Bill Murray » 21 Sep 2009 22:31

That, David, was a very nice call!!

I spent two hours looking at International and Caterpillar sites and came up with a lot of new photos for my archives but nothing on Sturm's tractor.

According to Bart Vanderveen's book "Army Vehicles to 1940", those tractors were built in 1918. 6.623 ordered, 2.014 delivered. 628 were shipped to France and I guess the rest ended up in the Field Artillery vehicle park to be used up until they wore out. Not used in WWII.

Thanks for your excellent research, and again thanks to Sturm for posting this collection of very rare photographs.

Bill

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Sturm78 » 09 Oct 2009 09:23

Thanks for your help, David and Bill.

I found more photos of this series (from Ebay, via http://www.ioh.pl forum):

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Sewer King » 12 Oct 2009 05:02

David Reasoner wrote:
Sturm78 wrote:Do you know anything about crawler tractor towing the 155mm GPF guns? I guess a Caterpillar old model tractor, no?
I believe they are the military version of the Holt 10-Ton model tractor
You'll have to click on the numbered-page links to expand the following:
all from Report of Benedict Crowell, Assistant Secretary of War for Munitions, America's Munitions 1917-1918 (US Government Printing Office, 1919), pages 150-151, 153 [tractor production totals], and photo plate 50.

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by nuyt » 18 Oct 2009 21:04

Sturm, excellent finds!
PLs take note of the reaction of Nelson on this forum:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/594514/t ... +on+Hawaii

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