I need help to Id US truck

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Mr Oracle » 29 Nov 2010 11:02

I am sorry but I have had to re-register to get back in!

This is from my draft book:
J.S. Innes Limited of Toronto created a rear tracked arrangement powered by the rear wheels, suitable for any 1½- or 2-ton chassis, long or short-wheelbase, with either freight or passenger body, though Ford chassis seem to have been the preferred choice. For winter use, the front wheels were exchanged for steering sleighs, though the front wheel system enabled the truck to proceed over any road or surface conditions other than presumably pure snow. The conversions seem to have been aimed mostly at Ford truck users though. ‘Innes-Cunningham’ half-track conversions were used by the DND [DEPARTMENT OF NATRIONAL DEFENCE IN OTTAWA]: a limited number of Innes-Cunningham half-track conversion Ford trucks were used as gun tractors with ‘C’ Battery, RCHA, Winnipeg, and with the RCAF as crash tenders with Ward-LaFrance fire pumper bodies in 1939. The Artillery trucks may have been 1936 Models; a Lt. Colonel C.R. Grant, DOC, MD No. 10, wrote to the Secretary to the DND concerning Innes-Cunningham Half-track vehicles for ‘C’ Battery, RCHA Grant referred to a letter of 6 January 1937 and his radiogram of 12 January. He enclosed a full report embodying the information contained under various headings of NDFC 763, complied by the Officer Commanding, ‘C’ Battery, and also a separate detailed report giving cost of repairs and replacements. The DND had several 1936 Model 2-ton Stake trucks and there is no indication as to which trucks were conversions, if any. It is thought that the 1936 half-track conversion as revealed on P. 17 of Dr. Gregg’s book ‘Blueprint for Victory’, which was purchased by the DND for trials at Petawawa, and was allegedly a Marmon-Herrington conversion, was one of at least two Innes-Cunningham conversions acquired in 1936

Another company that offered conversions to provide 6 x 4 drive was the THORNTON TANDEM COMPANY of 5128 Braden Street Detroit, who specialised in Chevrolet and GMC chassis, as well as Ford and Dodge. These used a patented rear bogie, and allowed twin rear wheels on each rear axle to increase capacity from 1½- to 3-tons. The Canadian representatives were across the river in Windsor: H.V. WELLES LIMITED, hence their ‘Welles-Thornton’ conversion

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Bill Murray » 02 Dec 2010 23:00

Hi Sturm:

Sorry, but I did not ever get any notification that this thread was still active and just happened to take a look.

Starting on 16 May for your questions.

#1 is a Biederman 110 4 ton 6x6 built in approximately 20 examples 1936/1937.
#2 is a GMC T5.
#3 is maybe a Linn T3 but not from the 1920's but from the 1930's.

14 July:

#1 is a Mack or International Harvester "Truck 5 Ton 4x2 Tractor".

18 October:

Yes, a White Indiana as indicated in your post.

31 October:

Karlik: The vehicle is a Dodge of the 1917-1918 period some hundreds of which were sent to Europe in the latter stages of WWI. I will try to get the model number later.

12 November:

A GMC CCKW w/winch is correct.

28 November:

Definitely a 1934 Chevrolet. Somewhere I have more information on Cunningham and I will post it here when I find it.

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Sturm78 » 03 Dec 2010 12:08

Thank you very much for your help, Bill.

What about my images posted here on 13 Feb 2010? GMC trucks ?? :?

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Bill Murray » 03 Dec 2010 12:27

Hi Sturm:

13 February Page one:
Dodge TE30 1.5 ton 4x4 built in 1940.
Photo 2 is the same type of truck.
Photo 3 is a 1941 Dodge WC3 1/2 ton 4x4.

13 February page two:
Dodge 1.5 ton again.

01 March:
Both pictures show a Dodge VC 5 1/2 ton 4x4.

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Sturm78 » 03 Dec 2010 13:13

Thank very much, again, Bill. :D

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Sturm78 » 24 Dec 2010 11:59

Hi all,

Can anybody identify these vehicles? :?

Image from Ebay
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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by AVV » 24 Dec 2010 12:02

Hello!
Sturm78 wrote:Can anybody identify these vehicles?
M26 Dragon Wagon, may be?

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Bill Murray » 24 Dec 2010 12:08

Yes.

Designed by the Knuckey Company and produced by the Pacific Car & Foundry Company.
12 ton 6X6. Built 1943-1945, total production was 1,372.
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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Mr Oracle » 24 Dec 2010 12:11

I was going to suggest Pacific Car & Foundry Co. Model TR-1, M26 armoured cab 12-ton tractor (with ballast body?). Coupled usually to the M15 40-ton trailer (M25 as a combo).

Beat me to it! The British had a few allocated in Europe for heavy tank rescue, ex-US Army, and post-war some were acquired for civvy heavy haulage.

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by binder001 » 24 Dec 2010 14:21

Nice photo. That's not a special "ballast body" on those M26s. It's just an enclosure (likely plywood) to protect the winches, etc from the long sea voyage. Kind of interesting that by the time the M26 is prepped for overseas movement it almost looks like a different vehicle.

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by AVV » 24 Dec 2010 14:44

binder001 wrote:Kind of interesting that by the time the M26 is prepped for overseas movement it almost looks like a different vehicle.
Yes, it looks like they have a sort of cargo body.

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Sturm78 » 28 Dec 2010 09:57

Thank you very much to all for your answers. :D

Here, a new question: Can anybody identify these vehicles?

Images from Ebay
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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Bill Murray » 29 Dec 2010 12:30

Hi Sturm:

A very nice photo indeed!!

The station wagon is a 1934 Chevrolet and the trucks seem to all be 1935 model Dodges.
Both White and Indiana made similar trucks but their drivers doors opened from the rear, not the front which is what we can see on the Dodges. As well, the front fenders/mudguards had a slightly different look.

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Sturm78 » 30 Dec 2010 09:43

Thank you, Bill

Greetings. Sturm78

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Jan 2011 13:08

Hi all,

An image from Ebay. I think GMC T43 (according to Bill Murray Id. in the first page of this thread):

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