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Re: I need help to Id US truck

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Post by Bill Murray » 04 Jan 2011, 16:04

Hi Sturm:

Yes, exactly that make of truck.
Apparently, they were only built to carry Sperry searchlights and often pulled a trailer with a sound locator on it.
Built 1935 and did not see action in WWII as far as I know.
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Re: I need help to Id US truck

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Post by Sturm78 » 08 Jan 2011, 11:47

Hi all,

Another image from Ebay. According to photocaption the trucks are 1934 Dodge 1.5ton.
Is this correct?

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

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Post by Bill Murray » 08 Jan 2011, 12:48

Hi Sturm:

I believe they are Dodges either 1934 or 1935 models.
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Re: I need help to Id US truck

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Post by Sturm78 » 08 Jan 2011, 16:08

Thank you very much, Bill.

What about this image? 8O

Image from Ebay
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Re: I need help to Id US truck

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Post by Bill Murray » 08 Jan 2011, 16:23

Hi Sturm:

Wow, you can really pick the photos!!

The hidden truck is a diamond T 4 ton 6X6, possibly a dump truck version.

The other two machines I do not have a military ID for just yet but they are in my opinion used for crushing rock and gravel to make either roads or airfields. Somewhere I seem to remember I have some info on these machines but it will take some time to find it.

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

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Post by Bill Murray » 08 Jan 2011, 16:49

Hi again Sturm:

I found it/them.

The unit on the left is a "Crushing & Screening Plant Jaw Crusher"
The unit on the left is a "Crushing & Screening Plant Roll Crusher"

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

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Post by Sturm78 » 10 Jan 2011, 12:09

Thank you very much for your identification of this rare military equipment, Bill. :D

left, left ?? :?

Do you know the company that manufactured this equipment?

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

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Post by Bill Murray » 10 Jan 2011, 13:11

Hi Sturm:

Sorry, should have been left, right. I tried edit the post yesterday but the edit function didn't work.

The maker of both units was The Iowa Manufacturing Company who I believe is still in business.

The unit on the left was a Model 2 Primary Unit, the one on the right was a model 2 Secondary Unit.

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Post by Sturm78 » 12 Jan 2011, 12:17

Thank you, again, Bill :D

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

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Post by Sturm78 » 22 Jan 2011, 13:55

Hi all,

I need help with these vehicles. Can anybody identify them?

Images 1-2: I think a M4 High-Speed Tractor prototype, maybe. :? :?
Image 3: Can anybody identify the vehicles of this image? I think a M4 tractor prototype, two GMC CCKW trucks, a unknow (for me) SP howitzer and a rare vehicle in last place. :? :?

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

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Post by AVV » 22 Jan 2011, 15:10

Hello!
Sturm78 wrote:unknow (for me) SP howitzer
It looks like 155 mm. howitzer motor carriage M41 (M24 chassis).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _M41_1.JPG

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

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Post by Bill Murray » 22 Jan 2011, 16:48

Hi Sturm:

I am thinking the tractor(s) may be the M6 variant. Note it has a quite long track with a lot more rollers than the M4.

The truck in the rear is quite strange and I have not found a perfect match yet. It seems to be a ballast truck to be towed by the tractor to determing how much weight it can pull or maybe even a dynamometer truck, which I know they had at Aberdeen, which measured the actual tractive power of the towing vehicle.
Edit: Here are photos of the M4 and M6. I could be wrong, tracked vehicles are not my area of interest.

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

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Post by Sturm78 » 23 Jan 2011, 12:03

Aleks wrote

It looks like 155 mm. howitzer motor carriage M41 (M24 chassis).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _M41_1.JPG
Thanks for your answer, Aleks. I think you are right. Only one question: When this vehicle entered in service? WW2 or later. I have seen only images of this vehicle in action during Korean War.

Here another image of this vehicle during trials:
Bill wrote

I am thinking the tractor(s) may be the M6 variant. Note it has a quite long track with a lot more rollers than the M4.

The truck in the rear is quite strange and I have not found a perfect match yet. It seems to be a ballast truck to be towed by the tractor to determing how much weight it can pull or maybe even a dynamometer truck, which I know they had at Aberdeen, which measured the actual tractive power of the towing vehicle.
Edit: Here are photos of the M4 and M6. I could be wrong, tracked vehicles are not my area of interest.
Ummhhh. I think the vehicle is a M4 tractor (prototype probably). The mud does not allow to see very well the roadwheels but I would say that seems to have only two return rollers.
Besides the general appearance of the vehicle coincides more with the M4 tractor.
Here a image of a M6 tractor to compare:

Any new suggestions are welcome.

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

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Post by Bill Murray » 23 Jan 2011, 16:57

Hi Sturm:

I accept your view of the Tractor, I really know almost nothing about them but it looked a bit larger to me.

To the subject of the photo itself, I have a theory that it was taken in the 1950s.

The ballast truck I mentioned is at least similar to the GOER concept that was a series of articulated vehicles built by both Caterpillar and Oshkosh in that time period. The GOER vehicles were sort of two separate pieces with a power plant in each end and either a cargo body, dump body or whatever in the middle. The vehicle in your photo seems to be a single unit but the front end and general "look" is very close to the GOER trucks.

I still cannot figure out if I am correct why the very early style GMCs are in the photo and my only answer is they were probably supplied early in the war and had very little use and APG just kept them after the war.

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Re: I need help to Id US truck

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Post by Sturm78 » 25 Jan 2011, 11:43

Bill wrote

To the subject of the photo itself, I have a theory that it was taken in the 1950s.

The ballast truck I mentioned is at least similar to the GOER concept that was a series of articulated vehicles built by both Caterpillar and Oshkosh in that time period. The GOER vehicles were sort of two separate pieces with a power plant in each end and either a cargo body, dump body or whatever in the middle. The vehicle in your photo seems to be a single unit but the front end and general "look" is very close to the GOER trucks.

I still cannot figure out if I am correct why the very early style GMCs are in the photo and my only answer is they were probably supplied early in the war and had very little use and APG just kept them after the war.
Ummhhh. A very difficult question. I think this rare truck is not a articulated vehicle as the GOER concept.
On the other hand, first prototypes of GOER M520 were not delivered until 1961-63, so could not be a prototype of GOER.
I have not been able to find any vehicle that matches with the vehicle of my photo. :?

I leave the question open in case anyone has any other ideas.

A new question: GMC or Studebaker ? :? The front fenders do not match

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