Help to Id. US artillery
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Hi all,
I found this image on CDSG forum. According to photocaption Battery Hobart.
I have found that this battery was armed with M1898 Armstrong L40 guns mounted on M1898 Pedestal carriages.
Is the gun of the image a 152mm Armstrong M1898 L40 ??
I did not know that US coastal artillery used british design
Sturm78
I found this image on CDSG forum. According to photocaption Battery Hobart.
I have found that this battery was armed with M1898 Armstrong L40 guns mounted on M1898 Pedestal carriages.
Is the gun of the image a 152mm Armstrong M1898 L40 ??
I did not know that US coastal artillery used british design
Sturm78
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At the beginning of the Spanish American war the coast Artillery was in the process of building defenses but the american industry had not built the guns to arm many of the batteries yet. The result was the "panic buying of any light guns which were available. Several warships including two british built light cruisers were also purchased by the US navy. One of the results of purchasing from the exhisting inventory of Armstrong was the aquisition of 34-4.7 inch pedistal mounted weapons of 40, 45, and 50 calibers. In addition 8-6 inch pedistal mounted weapon were purchased and emplaced. They were of nonstandard design and caliber compared to US weapons and all were declared obsolete by 1919. Curously 2-6 inch survived scrapping and are today on display at Fort De Soto state park in Tampa florida.
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Thank you very much for your answer, ROLAND1369 .
Here, some more images to identify:
Image 1-2: According to photocaption, Ft. Monroe but I do not know the battery or gun model. Any idea?
Image 3: ??
Sturm78
Here, some more images to identify:
Image 1-2: According to photocaption, Ft. Monroe but I do not know the battery or gun model. Any idea?
Image 3: ??
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Asuming the location is Monroe, and the battery construction seems to match,No 1 is a 10 inch m1895m1 on a carriage LF disappearing m1896, most likely from the metal stairs in the background, at Battery Church. No 2 are 12 inch m1895 guns on carriage LF M1897 most likely at Battery De Russey. The last is a 7 inch 45 caliber railway m1918 railway gun which was produced during WW I as a mobile weapon to defend against german submarines. A modernized version was produced during WW II and provided to Brazil during WW II
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Thank you very much for your help, once more, ROLAND1369.
Here an image from Ebay: I think 76mm 3in M3 AA gun but I am not sure:
Sturm78
Here an image from Ebay: I think 76mm 3in M3 AA gun but I am not sure:
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Dear S78,Sturm78 wrote:Thank you very much for your help, once more, ROLAND1369.
Here an image from Ebay: I think 76mm 3in M3 AA gun but I am not sure:
Sturm78
Is this photo supposed to be from Wake Island?
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At first glance I'd think no, not Wake. ..but there is so little evidence I recognize. Mainly the clothing looks a bit off & the shrubs on the edge of the gun position wrong. Unrelated to that I am wondering if this is a cropped or reduced part of a larger original photo.
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According to photocaption, Australia, 1942. 76.2mm M3 ??TH-M2 WROTE
Is this photo supposed to be from Wake Island?
On the other hand, can somebody help me to identify this gun?
According to photocaption, Battery Gunnison of Fort Hancock. I guess, therefore, 152mm 6in M1903 gun on M1903 Disappearing Carriage. Can anyone confirm this?
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Nobody for my last image ?
Well, here two other images of US coastal guns. According to photocaption, Battery Potter, Fort Hancock.
However, according to information that I could find of this battery, it seems that this battery was armed with two
305mm 12" M1888 guns mounted on rare M1891 Gun Lift carriages.
I think this does not correspond to the guns of the images, as they seem to use standard Buffington-Crozier type gun carriages.
Can somebody help me to identify these guns and battery?
Thanks in advance. Sturm78
Well, here two other images of US coastal guns. According to photocaption, Battery Potter, Fort Hancock.
However, according to information that I could find of this battery, it seems that this battery was armed with two
305mm 12" M1888 guns mounted on rare M1891 Gun Lift carriages.
I think this does not correspond to the guns of the images, as they seem to use standard Buffington-Crozier type gun carriages.
Can somebody help me to identify these guns and battery?
Thanks in advance. Sturm78
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Re your earlier post you are correct it is a 6 Inch M1903 gun on a carriage LF m1903 so the gun matches Bty Gunnison. The concrete stairwell in the emplacement and gun platsorm matches the RCW for the battery and the visible ground around the phot matches Gunnison however this battery is constructed like several others so no feature is conclusive unless you definately can prove the photo was taken at Fort Hancock.
Re your second two photos the gun is a 12 inch M1895MI on a carriage LF M1901. The presence of the recessed concrete stairwell in the background as well a the type gun would make this Bty Richardson if the photo was taken at Fort Hancock. The picture was taken after the early 1920s as it has beenmodified for increased elevation by the replacement of the elevating arm and band. For reference I have included a photo of the M 1891 Gun lift Carriage. Source national archives.
Re your second two photos the gun is a 12 inch M1895MI on a carriage LF M1901. The presence of the recessed concrete stairwell in the background as well a the type gun would make this Bty Richardson if the photo was taken at Fort Hancock. The picture was taken after the early 1920s as it has beenmodified for increased elevation by the replacement of the elevating arm and band. For reference I have included a photo of the M 1891 Gun lift Carriage. Source national archives.
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Thank you very much for your help, ROLAND1369. Your help is being invaluable to me
Here another two images from Ft. Monroe (according to photocaption)
Can you help me to identify the gun/battery?
Images from CDSG Forum
Regards Sturm78
Here another two images from Ft. Monroe (according to photocaption)
Can you help me to identify the gun/battery?
Images from CDSG Forum
Regards Sturm78
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I am always glad to help in any small way I can. Your last two pictures a an easy one. The guns are 12 Inch M1900 guns on Carriage LF M 1901 and are located at Battery Parrott, Fort Monroe. This is confirmed by the concrete stairwell with the curved portion at the bottom visible in the background.The M1900 gun was a rather flawed attempt to increase the armor penetration of the 12 inch gun to equal that of the 14 inch weapon. In their brillence the ordinance department . increased the powder charge from the 270 lbs of the m1895 to 330 lbs for the M1900. This increased the muzzle velocity to 2800 feet per second. In addition they reduced the size of the powder chamber. This fiasco resulted in a weapon with the desired armor penetration but, due to encreased bore erosion, with a barrel life of only 75 Full charge rounds. as a result the M1900 gun could fire out its bore with less than 1/2 it magazine storage. The reduced chamber diameter also was almost impossible to ram the powder bags into reliably. The ordinance department was forced to reduce the powder charge to 295 lbs and increase the chamber size. This solved the loading problem and reduced the muzzle velocity to 2450 Feet per second and a performance only slightly superior to the preceeding M 1895 Gun.
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Forgot to add that the reduction increased the barrel life to 250 full charge rounds.
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Thank you very much for your help and information, ROLAND1369
Here a last question about US coastal guns.....for the moment.
According to photocaption Battery Sullivan, in Fort Williams. This battery was armed with two 10in M1888MI guns mounted on M1894MI Disappearing carriages and one 10in M1888MII mounted on a M1896 Disappearing carriage.
Which is the gun of the images??
Images from CDSG forum
Sturm78
Here a last question about US coastal guns.....for the moment.
According to photocaption Battery Sullivan, in Fort Williams. This battery was armed with two 10in M1888MI guns mounted on M1894MI Disappearing carriages and one 10in M1888MII mounted on a M1896 Disappearing carriage.
Which is the gun of the images??
Images from CDSG forum
Sturm78