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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 30 May 2020 13:34

CharlieC wrote
bit later than that - the experiments in tracked carriages for field artillery seem to have been around 1921-22. The idea was to reduce the ground pressure of the field piece so that it became possible to tow over soft ground. With tracked artillery tractors it was possible to tow guns over soft ground but they could be damaged if the wheels dug it. One of the earliest examples of tracked carriages were the ex-USN 7inch guns produced before
on land carriages (http://landships/landships/artillery_ar ... _Mk_2.html). I've attached an image of the tracked carriage for the 155mm M1918 (GPF) gun, I had not seen an image of the equivalent carriage for the 8inch howitzer.
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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by CharlieC » 02 Jun 2020 00:02

Opinions on this artillery piece please...

Any ideas on when and where? What are the letters painted on the back of some of the gun crews' uniform about?

The image in the image collection of the National WW1 Museum. I guess many of the coastal artillery guns' service spanned WW1
even though they saw no action.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by Richard Anderson » 02 Jun 2020 01:08

They are the Cannoneers, who were numbered from 1 to X depending on the piece. They did the grunt work on the gun. Otherwise the Gun Section typically consisted of the Gun Commander, the Gun Pointer, the Chief of Breech, the Range Setter, the Range Display Board Operator, the Azimuth Board Operator, the Range Recorder, and the Azimuth Recorder, among others.
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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by CharlieC » 02 Jun 2020 13:28

Does a 12inch Disappearing gun at Fort Monroe sound plausible? I came across another image of a 12inch gun firing, it looked much like the one
I posted.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by Richard Anderson » 02 Jun 2020 16:58

CharlieC wrote:
02 Jun 2020 13:28
Does a 12inch Disappearing gun at Fort Monroe sound plausible? I came across another image of a 12inch gun firing, it looked much like the one
I posted.

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Both Battery DeRussy and Parrott has 12-inch DC at Fort Monroe. It's been over ten years since I lived there, so I'm not sure which one might be in the photo. :D
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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by ROLAND1369 » 02 Jun 2020 22:17

Not a 12 but a 10 inch gun M 1888 on a carriage DC LF M1896. Based on an assumption that this is Ft Monroe and the configuration of the emplacement I would give a 90% assurance that this is the No 2 emplacement of Battery Church, Ft Monroe. I would have to dig out my old photos to confirm this.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by Richard Anderson » 02 Jun 2020 23:07

The Gun Man to the rescue! Thanks! I wouldn't know the two apart without some serious research. I've long wondered, are you a CDSG member?
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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by ROLAND1369 » 03 Jun 2020 15:24

Yes, I have been a member since the early 80s. The primary point of identification of the 10 inch M 96 is the raised circular lower portion of the carriage which projects over a foot above the concrete floor of the gun pit. The 12 inch m 97 and 1901 carriages have a metal working platform which is level with the concrete floor of the pit. As for the 10 Inch M1888 gun I know of no other mounted on the 10 inch M 94 or M 96 carriages. As to the battery Id the picture shows an angled concrete roof over the upper ammunition hoist. As battery Church was equipped with a tunnel type also unique to this battery it is pretty conclusive.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by ROLAND1369 » 03 Jun 2020 15:30

If you go to Google Earth and bring up the overhead view of Bty Church you will see the angled roof on the left hand gun pit.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by Richard Anderson » 03 Jun 2020 18:35

ROLAND1369 wrote:
03 Jun 2020 15:24
Yes, I have been a member since the early 80s.
I suspected as much. Wonderful repository of information. I have a special place in my heart for the CAC, since my Dad was first commissioned as a 2d Lieutenant CAC. :D
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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 03 Jun 2020 21:48

Here, a better quality version of your image, Richard.

10in gun, Ft. Monroe, June 1918

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by CharlieC » 03 Jun 2020 23:09

Thank you all for your help.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by ROLAND1369 » 03 Jun 2020 23:18

That larger picture confirms the location. The pillbox looking thing(actually and emergency fire control station) on the far parapet confirms that this is Bty Church.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by ROLAND1369 » 03 Jun 2020 23:24

#940

Post 03 Jun 2020 18:35 Are you a member also? I have no family connection with the Coast Artillery, father was Air Force, and in my 33 years Army service artillery was one of the few combat branches I missed. Just got fascinated by the early application of such advanced technology.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

Post by Richard Anderson » 04 Jun 2020 00:20

ROLAND1369 wrote:
03 Jun 2020 23:24
#940

Post 03 Jun 2020 18:35 Are you a member also? I have no family connection with the Coast Artillery, father was Air Force, and in my 33 years Army service artillery was one of the few combat branches I missed. Just got fascinated by the early application of such advanced technology.
No, I've never joined, but I probably should. I live in Bremerton now, so have east access to Worden, Casey, and Flagler.
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