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Re: Help to Id. US plane

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Post by Sturm78 » 07 Jun 2021, 23:36

Hi all,

I found this image on Ebay. The plane seems be a Douglas DC-2 military plane, captured by Germans. Can somebody contribute with any information about the context in which this image was taken ?

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Re: Help to Id. US plane

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Post by Takao » 08 Jun 2021, 03:30

DC-2 of the DG series.

While the S/N is not clear in the photo, the numbers ran from DG468 to DG479.


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Re: Help to Id. US plane

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Post by Sturm78 » 08 Jun 2021, 20:47

Takao wrote
DC-2 of the DG series.

While the S/N is not clear in the photo, the numbers ran from DG468 to DG479.
Thanks for your confirmation, Takao.....but my question refers more to Where and When this image could de taken ?

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Re: Help to Id. US plane

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Post by LineDoggie » 09 Jun 2021, 01:38

Sturm78 wrote:
07 Jun 2021, 23:36
Hi all,

I found this image on Ebay. The plane seems be a Douglas DC-2 military plane, captured by Germans. Can somebody contribute with any information about the context in which this image was taken ?

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The tall narrow fin flash was used in Summer of 1940 by Multi engine A/C
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Re: Help to Id. US plane

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Post by Sturm78 » 09 Jun 2021, 21:33

LineDoggie wrote
The tall narrow fin flash was used in Summer of 1940 by Multi engine A/C
Thanks, LineDoggie. We can therefore affirm that it is a Douglas DC-2 British plane captured in France in summer 1940.....

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Re: Help to Id. US plane

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 10 Jun 2021, 01:05

I am afraid I disagree. From the shape of the tail, particularly the presence of the filet forward of the vertical stabilizer this is a DC 3 not a DC 2. Note shape, rudder pivot shape of rudder.
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Re: Help to Id. US plane

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Post by Sturm78 » 10 Jun 2021, 15:53

ROLAND1369 wrote
I am afraid I disagree. From the shape of the tail, particularly the presence of the filet forward of the vertical stabilizer this is a DC 3 not a DC 2. Note shape, rudder pivot shape of rudder.
Hi ROLAND1369

Some military versions of DC-2 had the tail and rudder shape of the later DC-3 (C-33 , C-39,...)
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-2

Furthermore, the engines do not correspond to those used in the DC-3..

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Re: Help to Id. US plane

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Post by Sturm78 » 16 Nov 2022, 23:16

Hi all,

Any idea about the seaplanes on the catapult of this Ebay image ?

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Re: Help to Id. US plane

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Post by jbroshot » 17 Nov 2022, 07:35

Sturm78 wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 23:16
Hi all,

Any idea about the seaplanes on the catapult of this Ebay image ?

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Vought O2U-3 Corsairs (based on a perusal of U S Navy Aircraft since 1911[/url][/u], by Gordon Swanborough and Peter M. Bowers (1990 edition)

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Re: Help to Id. US plane

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Post by Sturm78 » 17 Nov 2022, 17:09

jbroshot wrote
Vought O2U-3 Corsairs (based on a perusal of U S Navy Aircraft since 1911[/url][/u], by Gordon Swanborough and Peter M. Bowers (1990 edition)
Ummmhhh...I am not sure. If we look at the tail profile I am inclined to think in a Vought O3U-1 Corsair....

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Re: Help to Id. US plane

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Post by Takao » 17 Nov 2022, 20:04

O2U-2.

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Re: Help to Id. US plane

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Post by jbroshot » 18 Nov 2022, 04:01

Sturm78 wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 17:09
jbroshot wrote
Vought O2U-3 Corsairs (based on a perusal of U S Navy Aircraft since 1911[/url][/u], by Gordon Swanborough and Peter M. Bowers (1990 edition)
Ummmhhh...I am not sure. If we look at the tail profile I am inclined to think in a Vought O3U-1 Corsair....

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Tail profile of O3U-1 is the same as the O2U-3 and OSU-4, based on diagrams and photos in Swanborough and Bowers

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Re: Help to Id. US plane

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Post by Takao » 18 Nov 2022, 21:33

jbroshot wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 04:01
Sturm78 wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 17:09
jbroshot wrote
Vought O2U-3 Corsairs (based on a perusal of U S Navy Aircraft since 1911[/url][/u], by Gordon Swanborough and Peter M. Bowers (1990 edition)
Ummmhhh...I am not sure. If we look at the tail profile I am inclined to think in a Vought O3U-1 Corsair....

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Tail profile of O3U-1 is the same as the O2U-3 and OSU-4, based on diagrams and photos in Swanborough and Bowers
Except, the tail profile of the O3U-1
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Does not match the photo in question.
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Thus, it is not an O2U-3, O2U-4, or an O3U-1.

As I said before, it is an O2U-2

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Re: Help to Id. US plane

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Post by jbroshot » 19 Nov 2022, 06:02

I believe that Takao and I agree that the floatplanes in the original photo are O2Us, and not O3Us. We just don't agree on the model. For reference, some diagrams in lieu of photographs

taken from United States Navy Aircraft since 1911, cited in previous messages
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