What was US RCT?

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What was US RCT?

Post by Polynike » 26 May 2003 20:48

Can somebody please explain the makeup of a WW2 US Regimental Combat Team and provide the German equivalent if there is one?

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Post by daveh » 27 May 2003 16:01

Regimental Combat Teams were task forces temporaily extracted from divisions, or independant units under corps command. Their make up depended on forces to hand and the task they were created to deal with. Those created from an infantry division used one of the Regimental Command HQ's to command them.

A German kampfgruppe would probaly be the nearest equivalent

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Post by Polynike » 27 May 2003 16:49

so they were adhoc formations then...but were they as diverse as german kampfgruppe in composition though i suppose the diversity of the kampfgruppe was down to the fact that as the germans were in retreat formations or what was left of them were scraped together to form them. in a the cassel military atlas of WW2 there are some RCT's in the Operation Overlord OOB so i was just wondering how diverse would they have been?

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Post by ChristopherPerrien » 27 May 2003 18:47

A regiment is composed of four or five battalions of the same type.
example. -five infantry battalions
A RCT is of similar size but is composed of battalions of different types.

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Post by Polynike » 27 May 2003 23:05

by different types do you mean engineers, infantry, machine gun etc?

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Post by ChristopherPerrien » 27 May 2003 23:58

yes Armor infantry ,artillery, egineers, etc.

Now this would be slightly differnt for US Marine RCT. They also used the RCT as a formal organization I think they were like 3-4 inf battalions and a transport battalion. They could vary depending on the mission.

In an Amercan Armor division the Combat Command setup was similar also to RCT's.

The American army started with the Brigade setup , the RCT concept at times appears to be an adoption of the German system of Ad hoc task forces.

Really there are no set TOEs for an RCT except the Marine kind.

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Post by James Patrick » 28 May 2003 00:13

Take D-Day as an example. The 116th Infantry Regiment of the 29th Infantry Division had 3 infantry battalions. Take the 116th IR and add slice elements from the 29th ID combat support and combat service support battalions and companies--an artillery bn (105mm), an artillery company (155mm), an engineer company and small slice elements of MPs, Recon, Maitenance and Quartermaster units. The 116th IR with all of these elements is now called the 116th Regiment Combat Team. Armor divisions acted in a similar fashion, but would intermix the manuever elements from different regiments (armor and infantry). This was called a Combat Command instead of a RCT. They're not really kampgruppes, which are more similar to a US Army Task Force. I don't know what to compare them to on the German side. When a German infantry division went into combat did the infantry, artillery, and engineers go and do their own thing, or did the CS and CSS units of the division divy up and attach to the IRs and work as combined arms teams? If they did, whatever that was called is similar to a US Army RCT.

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