What Small Arms were stored on Aircraft Carriers?

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What Small Arms were stored on Aircraft Carriers?

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Post by Anthonycumia1776 » 23 Sep 2019, 08:49

What did they have?

What kind of quantity?

Was the floor plan of ever carrier idenitical?

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Post by OpanaPointer » 23 Sep 2019, 11:45

Anthonycumia1776 wrote:
23 Sep 2019, 08:49
What did they have?
I don't have a specific answer but they would have had small arms sufficient to arm ships' company for any purpose they would have for armed parties. Security guards would have .45 cal. pistols in the USN.
Was the floor plan of ever carrier idenitical?
Very similar layout by class (but not automatically identical), different by classes.
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Post by ROLAND1369 » 23 Sep 2019, 23:19

I have no idea on quantity, but during WW II there would have been 45 m 1911 pistols, M1903/M1 Garand rifles, 45 caliber Reising Model 50 or Thompson M1928 or M1 sub machine guns, BrownAutomatic Rifles M 1918, and 30 caliber M 1919a4 Light Machine Guns. In addition the air wing had 38 caliber revolvers for the aircrewmen.

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Post by OpanaPointer » 23 Sep 2019, 23:26

The 1911A semiautomatic was .45 cal. The aircrew revolvers were .38 caliber, five or six shot. Getting those details right is important for credibility. (And now someone will come along to correct me on this. ;) )
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Post by Anthonycumia1776 » 24 Sep 2019, 02:56

So my next question....

What would the weapon storage area be like? Solid walls or chain link fence for the walls of the weapon locker?

If you had the chance to use a ROV with string like hands that could be used to extract "artifacts" from say the U.S.S Hornet, would you?

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Post by reedwh52 » 24 Sep 2019, 04:17

As originally designed, not as many as you would think. The 1941 specifications for the Essex class included
100 M1903 rifles, 300 M1911 Pistols, 10 BAR and 8 Lewis guns.

https://maritime.org/doc/carrierspec/pg657.htm

a page in
DETAIL SPECIFICATIONS FOR BUILDING AIRCRAFT CARRIERS

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Post by Anthonycumia1776 » 24 Sep 2019, 04:47

reedwh52 wrote:
24 Sep 2019, 04:17
As originally designed, not as many as you would think. The 1941 specifications for the Essex class included
100 M1903 rifles, 300 M1911 Pistols, 10 BAR and 8 Lewis guns.

https://maritime.org/doc/carrierspec/pg657.htm

a page in
DETAIL SPECIFICATIONS FOR BUILDING AIRCRAFT CARRIERS
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Post by ROLAND1369 » 24 Sep 2019, 16:18

The weapons to be used by the Naval personnel would be stored in a central armory with sold walls, those belonging to the Marine Detachment(present on all US major warships) would have had their weapons stored in locked racks in their quarters. I believe the aircrew pistols would be stored and issued with the aircrew survival equipment.

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Post by OpanaPointer » 24 Sep 2019, 16:20

Given that the CVs seldom traveled unescorted the amount of small arms is reasonable, verging on generous.
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Post by OpanaPointer » 24 Sep 2019, 16:21

ROLAND1369 wrote:
24 Sep 2019, 16:18
The weapons to be used by the Naval personnel would be stored in a central armory with sold walls, those belonging to the Marine Detachment(present on all US major warships) would have had their weapons stored in locked racks in their quarters. I believe the aircrew pistols would be stored and issued with the aircrew survival equipment.
Sounds right. The air crew would not have kept the revolvers in their personal gear.
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Post by LineDoggie » 28 Sep 2019, 02:27

ROLAND1369 wrote:
23 Sep 2019, 23:19
I have no idea on quantity, but during WW II there would have been 45 m 1911 pistols, M1903/M1 Garand rifles, 45 caliber Reising Model 50 or Thompson M1928 or M1 sub machine guns, BrownAutomatic Rifles M 1918, and 30 caliber M 1919a4 Light Machine Guns. In addition the air wing had 38 caliber revolvers for the aircrewmen.
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Post by Takao » 28 Sep 2019, 14:24

Anthonycumia1776 wrote:
24 Sep 2019, 04:47
reedwh52 wrote:
24 Sep 2019, 04:17
As originally designed, not as many as you would think. The 1941 specifications for the Essex class included
100 M1903 rifles, 300 M1911 Pistols, 10 BAR and 8 Lewis guns.

https://maritime.org/doc/carrierspec/pg657.htm

a page in
DETAIL SPECIFICATIONS FOR BUILDING AIRCRAFT CARRIERS
Christ on sale, 10 BARs, 8 Lewis guns?
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