1st Armored in Tunisia
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1st Armored in Tunisia
Looking for orders of battle for 1AD between January and May of 1943. Can't seem to find much info on the web.
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Re: 1st Armored in Tunisia
It was organized as a standard March 1942 pattern armored division. So what are you asking for?luftschiff wrote: ↑03 Nov 2019, 21:46Looking for orders of battle for 1AD between January and May of 1943. Can't seem to find much info on the web.
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Cracking Hitler's Atlantic Wall
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Cracking Hitler's Atlantic Wall
Hitler's Last Gamble
Artillery Hell
Re: 1st Armored in Tunisia
This may help:
http://niehorster.org/013_usa/42_org/di ... /_da_.html
Click on the symbols to drill down to individual unit level
http://niehorster.org/013_usa/42_org/di ... /_da_.html
Click on the symbols to drill down to individual unit level
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Re: 1st Armored in Tunisia
Which 1st Armo(u)red Division? There was a septic and a limey one there...luftschiff wrote: ↑03 Nov 2019, 21:46Looking for orders of battle for 1AD between January and May of 1943. Can't seem to find much info on the web.
If the web doesn't give you your answer, have you considered buying a book or doing some primary research of your own? Or is that too much bother?
Re: 1st Armored in Tunisia
Somebody else to do all the work....
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Re: 1st Armored in Tunisia
To be fair, not necessarily, at least off of one post. Benefit of the doubt and all that initially.
If he is looking for just a wiring diagram for TO&E 17 dated 1 March 1942 with Changes 1 & 2 to 29 October 1942, then Leo should have it covered.
However, if he is looking for operational orders of battle for the 1st AD that is different and involves a lot of work, since they were so spread out and the tactical organization kept changing. It got so bad that they created an ad hoc "CCC" and "CCD" to help control units, which of course just ended up screwing up things even more. All part of the on-the-job-training in the US Army on how to do kampfgruppen.
Richard C. Anderson Jr.
American Thunder: U.S. Army Tank Design, Development, and Doctrine in World War II
Cracking Hitler's Atlantic Wall
Hitler's Last Gamble
Artillery Hell
American Thunder: U.S. Army Tank Design, Development, and Doctrine in World War II
Cracking Hitler's Atlantic Wall
Hitler's Last Gamble
Artillery Hell
Re: 1st Armored in Tunisia
Niehorster's site is so easy to find and covers everything required to answer the first. And the informatuon can be gleened from a good few other sites too.Richard Anderson wrote: ↑05 Nov 2019, 02:46If he is looking for just a wiring diagram for TO&E 17 dated 1 March 1942 with Changes 1 & 2 to 29 October 1942, then Leo should have it covered.
However, if he is looking for operational orders of battle for the 1st AD that is different and involves a lot of work, since they were so spread out and the tactical organization kept changing. It got so bad that they created an ad hoc "CCC" and "CCD" to help control units, which of course just ended up screwing up things even more. All part of the on-the-job-training in the US Army on how to do kampfgruppen.
Hence, a reasonable assumption that the poster is after somebody else to do all the work in the second option - whether it is for the septic or the limey version.
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Re: 1st Armored in Tunisia
I briefly tried to do the same thing for the same months. A few hours of tracing unit histories and the narrative details in the common histories of the Tunisian campaign got me nowhere. Actually it reminded me of the USMC deploying for Desert Shield/Storm & related global deployments, but without a a half century of experience in TF creation/operations.Richard Anderson wrote: ↑05 Nov 2019, 02:46...
However, if he is looking for operational orders of battle for the 1st AD that is different and involves a lot of work, since they were so spread out and the tactical organization kept changing. It got so bad that they created an ad hoc "CCC" and "CCD" to help control units, which of course just ended up screwing up things even more. All part of the on-the-job-training in the US Army on how to do kampfgruppen.
Re: 1st Armored in Tunisia
What "work" are you referring to?
it took me all of 10 seconds to provide the link to Neihorster's site.
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