Why in the world would the British or Americans be interested in the Czech Tatra diesel engine, when they already had very similar diesel engines of their own. The Americans had already decided they did not want to use diesels in armored cars, half tracks, or tanks two years before this, despite about ten years of reasonable development success by Allis-Chalmers, Grey Marine, Continental, Hercules, and others.Michael Kenny wrote: ↑10 Aug 2020 22:54Error is pointed out:
Reply with laughable attempt to recover from claiming the Panther had a diesel engine:
paulrward wrote: ↑10 Aug 2020 22:41
The German 234 series eight wheeled armored car had a very excellent, light weight diesel that was intensely
interesting to the Allies. Captured examples were studied. This also applied to the U-Boat diesels, which
the USN had a major interest in, as it must be remembered, a lot of the technology in USN submarine diesels
was based on late 1920s - early 1930s German patents that the United States had licensed. As a result, the
German U-boats that were captured were carefully picked over by USN technical types, as well as industry
experts, to find any technical details that could be adapted to improve the USN submarine fleet.
Laughable attempt indeed.
Yeah that is up there with the claim about you going ballistic over him saying the hulks were used for target practice. Trumpistic-style critical thinking at its finest. Pretty irrelevant to the actual discussion as well.Original claim where there is no doubt it is a Panther engine that is being discussed:
As a relevant aside though, I had forgotten that the Norrey Panthers were so extensively used as target practice. I wonder if Ike actually conflated the British reports of trying the 17-pdr, 6-pdr, 3", and 75mm guns against them with the reports of the Shoeburyness tests? There does not appear to be more than passing reference in the ETOUSA Ordnance records to British tests. I suspect Ike received any "analysis" of the Norrey shoots orally at second-hand, so it would have been relatively easy for him to mash them together in his mind. Have you run into any other British field tests against Panthers and Tigers in the June time frame that could explain Ike's remark?