Designed by Hitler, the Nazis’ Plan to infiltrate Los Angeles

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Designed by Hitler, the Nazis’ Plan to infiltrate Los Angeles

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Post by wm » 31 Jan 2021, 17:34

True or false?
The Nazis plotted to kill the city's Jews and to sabotage the nation's military installations: plans existed for murdering twenty prominent Hollywood figures such as James Cagney, Charlie Chaplin, Al Jolson, and Samuel Goldwyn; for driving through Boyle Heights and machine-gunning as many Jews as possible; and for blowing up defense installations and seizing munitions from National Guard armories along the Pacific Coast.
It's from this book:
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Post by TimeTravelAgent » 29 Oct 2022, 03:50

Speaking of Hollywood and Nazis, this radio documentary was on BBC Radio 4 on Friday night.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01n0spx

Dear Adolf - Letters to the Führer
Archive on 4

Christopher Cook examines a unique set of recordings from the vaults of the American Jewish Committee that strove to define America's war aims and values.

For 6 weeks, in 1942, the airwaves of NBC hummed with the voices of Hollywood stars such as James Cagney, Raymond Massey and Helen Hayes addressing the Führer in the guise of ordinary citizens. Ever since the trauma of Pearl Harbor, thousands of letters had poured into radio networks and newspaper offices expressing support, anger and defiance at the new war America was now fighting. These letters earned themselves the sobriquet of 'Dear Adolfs' and Pulitzer prize winning writer Stephen Vincent Benet drew on their inspiration for six fictional missives to Hitler.

But the backstory of these and other broadcasts from the AJC is as compelling as the star names chosen to speak for the people of America. Formed in 1906, the American Jewish Committee was a response to the plight of Eastern European Jewry then suffering a wave of pogroms. Avowedly 'unpolitical', in so far as it eschewed the major movements then gripping the Jewish world (Socialism, Zionism and Communism) it sought to defend Jewish life both in the U.S. and the heartlands of Eastern Europe and to engage in inter faith dialogue at home. At its heart was advocacy of a loyal American Jewish citizenry and a desire to overcome prejudice.

By the late 1930s the A.J.C. took to the airwaves to use the power of radio. Producing thousands of radio messages and programmes aimed at fighting bigotry on the home front and promoting democratic values for a diverse number of programmes. This was a time of rising antisemitism, domestically and abroad with the German American Bund holding mass rallies in Madison Square Gardens and the siren voice of radio demagogue Father Coughlin railing against 'internal enemies'.

Series like Dear Adolf and a gripping dramatization of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, made just months after its destruction, are just a few of the archival gems of the A.J.C. spanning two decades of attempts to counter prejudice and imbue ordinary Americans with the spirit of tolerance.


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Post by LineDoggie » 30 Oct 2022, 00:25

wm wrote:
31 Jan 2021, 17:34
True or false?
The Nazis plotted to kill the city's Jews and to sabotage the nation's military installations: plans existed for murdering twenty prominent Hollywood figures such as James Cagney, Charlie Chaplin, Al Jolson, and Samuel Goldwyn; for driving through Boyle Heights and machine-gunning as many Jews as possible; and for blowing up defense installations and seizing munitions from National Guard armories along the Pacific Coast.
It's from this book:
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Nazis couldnt get their butts across the English Channel how were they getting to L.A.?
"There are two kinds of people who are staying on this beach: those who are dead and those who are going to die. Now let’s get the hell out of here".
Col. George Taylor, 16th Infantry Regiment, Omaha Beach

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Post by Takao » 01 Nov 2022, 22:13

LineDoggie wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 00:25
wm wrote:
31 Jan 2021, 17:34
True or false?
The Nazis plotted to kill the city's Jews and to sabotage the nation's military installations: plans existed for murdering twenty prominent Hollywood figures such as James Cagney, Charlie Chaplin, Al Jolson, and Samuel Goldwyn; for driving through Boyle Heights and machine-gunning as many Jews as possible; and for blowing up defense installations and seizing munitions from National Guard armories along the Pacific Coast.
It's from this book:
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Nazis couldnt get their butts across the English Channel how were they getting to L.A.?
Because it's a myth based on a kernel of truth.
Chaplin was labeled by the Nazis as a Jew, as early as the 1933 edition of Juden Sehen Dich An.

There were some American Nazis based near Los Angeles that built a ranch, aka compound, where they hoped Hitler would come visit. Apparently, Hitler and the top Nazis hated them as much as the German-American Bund, by refusing most contact with either American Nazi groups.

Even the Nazi sabotage plot made no use of either American Nazi group.

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Post by Carl Schwamberger » 07 Nov 2022, 21:33

Nazis couldnt get their butts across the English Channel how were they getting to L.A.?
Because it's a myth based on a kernel of truth.
Chaplin was labeled by the Nazis as a Jew, as early as the 1933 edition of Juden Sehen Dich An.

There were some American Nazis based near Los Angeles that built a ranch, aka compound, where they hoped Hitler would come visit. Apparently, Hitler and the top Nazis hated them as much as the German-American Bund, by refusing most contact with either American Nazi groups.

Even the Nazi sabotage plot made no use of either American Nazi group.

That would have been Pellys Silver Legion, a parallel organization to the Bund, with less affiliation to German ethnicity. More like the Klan they were a general white power organization but expousing facist political ideas. There were also some radical religious ideas in Pellys core ideology & that may have repelled the nazi interest in the Silver Legion.

There is also a back story about Jewish businessmen in the US contracting the 'Mob', specifically Mier Lansky, to counter Silver Legion violence with Lanskys thugs. How much truth there is in that I cant say.

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