Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving

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Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving

Post by at6 » 25 Nov 2021 12:16

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Norman Rockwell painted a work entitled Home for Thanksgiving, a mother/son peeling potatoes. The son is in an USAF uniform. He is wearing loafers.

Were loafers part of the USAF uniform?

Just struck me as very odd, unless it symbolizes a return to civilian normalcy, etc.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving

Post by Carl Schwamberger » 25 Nov 2021 17:22

Was not uncommon. The soldier or airman may not have had sufficient civilian clothing in hand. Whatever he left at home may have already been handed down to a younger brother or cousin. So the uniform it would be, tho at home he put on some loafers rather than his heavy military boots.

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Re: Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving

Post by Hans1906 » 25 Nov 2021 18:47

Members of the German labor services, for example, often wore their "Drillich" outfit during a vacation at home, not uncommon.

Many of the "Arbeitsmänner" came from peasant families, and so the young men wore these very sturdy work clothes even during their few home vacations.

Farm workers in "Drillich" were not an uncommon sight even in my childhood years, many photos prove that.

Maybe someone can post an image of the picture discussed above, I would like to see that ?

Drillich / Drill (fabric) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drill_(fabric)


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Re: Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving

Post by LineDoggie » 26 Nov 2021 05:23

at6 wrote:
25 Nov 2021 12:16
Hello
Norman Rockwell painted a work entitled Home for Thanksgiving, a mother/son peeling potatoes. The son is in an USAF uniform. He is wearing loafers.

Were loafers part of the USAF uniform?

Just struck me as very odd, unless it symbolizes a return to civilian normalcy, etc.

Thanks in advance.

Happy Thanksgiving!
He's in his own home and not likely to suddenly have a snap uniform inspection.
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Re: Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving

Post by LineDoggie » 26 Nov 2021 05:35

By the way it wasnt a USAAF uniform he wears the Shoulder patch of Allied Forces headquarters
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Re: Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving

Post by at6 » 26 Nov 2021 16:00

Thanks for the corrections on AF; good catch.

Yes, agreed no snap inspection on leave (been there, done that), but I thought it odd he is in uniform for whatever reason and wearing loafers.

In the 1980s I saw US Army (granted, reservists) wearing Class A uniforms with non-lace up shoes; was just curious what the regs were back then.

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Re: Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving

Post by rcocean » 02 Jan 2022 04:58

at6 wrote:
25 Nov 2021 12:16
Hello
Norman Rockwell painted a work entitled Home for Thanksgiving, a mother/son peeling potatoes. The son is in an USAF uniform. He is wearing loafers.

Were loafers part of the USAF uniform?

Just struck me as very odd, unless it symbolizes a return to civilian normalcy, etc.

Thanks in advance.

Happy Thanksgiving!
Obviously, any man at home would be in combat boots.

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Re: Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving

Post by Max » 02 Jan 2022 06:44

Can we identify the components of the ribbon bar?
I'm guessing the purple heart is one of them.

BTW
The painting is also titled "Thanksgiving Mother and Son Peeling Potatoes"
Some of the story here
https://onlyintherepublicofamherst.blog ... 0Hagelberg
Richard (Dick) Hagelberg returned to the family dairy farm after surviving five years in the 9’th Army Air Corps, flying 65 treacherous daylight bombing missions over Europe, including D-Day.
Also
Image
https://www.norman-rockwell-france.com/ ... 45-p02.php
Interesting that the table has been raised to a physically uncomfortable level on books.[ for compositional reasons? ]
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Re: Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving

Post by ROLAND1369 » 02 Jan 2022 17:56

Even more interesting is although he has his ribbon bar on despite flying 65 missions he is not wearing any aircrew qualification wings.

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Re: Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving

Post by Max » 03 Jan 2022 04:09

ROLAND1369 wrote:
02 Jan 2022 17:56
Even more interesting is although he has his ribbon bar on despite flying 65 missions he is not wearing any aircrew qualification wings.
Rockwell changed him from the specific 9’th Army Air Corps aircrew to the more generic AFHQ.
I can't see the wings in the photographs either.
Where would they have been worn?
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Re: Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving

Post by ROLAND1369 » 03 Jan 2022 05:43

Aircrew qualification wings would have been worn on the left side above the wings. Normally the only reason qualified aircrew would not wear them is if the voluntarily terminated or were administratively removed from flight status for disciplinary reasons. Personell assigned to nonflying positions or those medically unqualified were entitled to continue wearing them. As these wings were a serious object of pride I find it odd that they are not present. Thus I question the 65 mission statement.

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Re: Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving

Post by Maxschnauzer » 03 Jan 2022 07:34

No doubt the lad is giving Mom a lesson on peeling potatoes from his KP experience. :)
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