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Post by Punk_Waffen » 15 Sep 2003 04:56

I need information on the M21 or M20 Allied troop carrier truck. I do believe it is the M20 or M21, although im not sure. If you hgave any information on it reply on here or send me an email at halomerc@aol.com
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M20 SCOUT CAR

Post by Jack Nisley » 15 Sep 2003 17:51

Are you thinking about the M20 utility vehicle, variant of M8 armoured car with turret removed and replaced with ring mount for .50 cal MG? Go to http://www.wwiivehicles, look under U.S. armoured cars.

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Post by Punk_Waffen » 22 Sep 2003 03:31

No i dont think thats it, it might be an Ally vehicle...im not sure...its a triple axle hehicle, 2 in back on in front i believe it might not even be from WWII but i think it is...
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Post by Von_Mannteufel » 22 Sep 2003 06:14

there was the american M21 Mortar Carrier but it was a halftrack http://www.mortarsinminiature.com/index_USM21.htm

or is it any of those?
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/swe/Swedish.htm

or by any chance is this you're talking about?

http://www.nat-military-museum.lu/pages ... llery.html
it's the 20th vehicle on the site(downwards)
http://www.jed.simonides.org/transport/ ... ction.html
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Post by Jack Nisley » 22 Sep 2003 18:07

Would like to help you, Punk_Waffen. Can you tell me where/how you heard about M20/M21? Do you have a picture you can post?

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Post by Punk_Waffen » 24 Sep 2003 18:43

it wasnt a half track vehicle i do know that, and no i dont have a picture, and i saw it in a book in the library called "Armored Fighting Vehicles" i do believe...
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Post by Yngwie J. » 09 Oct 2003 12:55

I´ve seen the designation M21 given to a Ural truck once, but I don´t have any details on the matter.
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Post by Aufklarung » 09 Oct 2003 15:19

Punk_Waffen
It really sounds like you are describing the M8/M20 Greyhound vehicle that Jack Nisley described.

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http://iquebec.ifrance.com/2iemeguerre/ ... nd_m20.htm
Yngwie J. wrote:I´ve seen the designation M21 given to a Ural truck once, but I don´t have any details on the matter.
I've not seen a Ural M21 but there was a Soviet automobile called Volga M21.

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Post by Yngwie J. » 09 Oct 2003 16:05

I remember where I saw it. In a caption to a picture of a Ural truck in the hands of Afghanistan Mujahedin ( I believe ) forces. This is the only reference I have to the use of the designation M21 on a Ural truck however, and it might just as well be misleading. Isn´t the M21 car a GAZ by the way ?
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Post by Aufklarung » 09 Oct 2003 17:38

Hi Yngwie J.
I don't want to re-direct Punk_Waffens thread too much but yes you are correct in that it was really a GAZ. The popular or model name was Volga.
http://www.gaz21.net/en/gaz21/historia.php

I'm positive this is not what P_W was talking about though. :lol:

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Post by Jack Nisley » 09 Oct 2003 22:05

Yngwie, the M21 Ural truck, might that have been the BM21 mobile rocket launcher??

The only M20 (M21?) I have been able to find is the M20 Utility Car I originally mentioned.

Punk_Waffen, only other suggestion I have is spend some time back at the library. Sorry can't help more.

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Post by Von_Mannteufel » 10 Oct 2003 03:47

there is a transport american M20 3 axled truck indeed.
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Post by Yngwie J. » 10 Oct 2003 12:43

Aufklarung, my err. Explains why I couldn´t tell the GAZ and the Volga apart though. :lol:

Jack Nisley, the BM21 was used by the Soviets in Afghanistan so it could of course have been one with the rocket launchers removed. It looked like a Ural 375 open troop transport, or something very similar indeed. But as I wrote earlier, whoever wrote the caption might have been wrong.

This M21 has turned in to quite the enigma, so I´ll second your suggestion to send Punk_Waffen back to the library to find out more about the identity of this vehicle. I think he owes this much to us by now. :wink: :lol:

Yngwie

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Post by Punk_Waffen » 16 Oct 2003 16:30

Von_Mannteufel wrote:there is a transport american M20 3 axled truck indeed.
Thats the one i want i do believe! :D
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Post by Punk_Waffen » 16 Oct 2003 16:33

:lol: Well ill try to get to the library today actually so i dont bug you people out of your minds while you try to figure out the answer. :P Ill post specs and everything once i get it! :)
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