M21

[Punk_Waffen]

I need information on the M21 or M20 Allied troop carrier truck. I do believe it is the M20 or M21, although im not sure. If you hgave any information on it reply on here or send me an email at [email protected]

[Jack Nisley]

Are you thinking about the M20 utility vehicle, variant of M8 armoured car with turret removed and replaced with ring mount for .50 cal MG? Go to http://www.wwiivehicles, look under U.S. armoured cars.

Jack Nisley

[Punk_Waffen]

No i dont think thats it, it might be an Ally vehicle...im not sure...its a triple axle hehicle, 2 in back on in front i believe it might not even be from WWII but i think it is...

[Von_Mannteufel]

there was the american M21 Mortar Carrier but it was a halftrack http://www.mortarsinminiature.com/index_USM21.htm

or is it any of those?
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/swe/Swedish.htm

or by any chance is this you're talking about?

http://www.nat-military-museum.lu/pages ... llery.html
it's the 20th vehicle on the site(downwards)
http://www.jed.simonides.org/transport/ ... ction.html

[Jack Nisley]

Would like to help you, Punk_Waffen. Can you tell me where/how you heard about M20/M21? Do you have a picture you can post?

Jack Nisley

[Punk_Waffen]

it wasnt a half track vehicle i do know that, and no i dont have a picture, and i saw it in a book in the library called "Armored Fighting Vehicles" i do believe...

[Yngwie J.]

I´ve seen the designation M21 given to a Ural truck once, but I don´t have any details on the matter.

[Aufklarung]

Punk_Waffen
It really sounds like you are describing the M8/M20 Greyhound vehicle that Jack Nisley described.


http://iquebec.ifrance.com/2iemeguerre/ ... nd_m20.htm

I´ve seen the designation M21 given to a Ural truck once, but I don´t have any details on the matter.

I've not seen a Ural M21 but there was a Soviet automobile called Volga M21.

regards
A

[Yngwie J.]

I remember where I saw it. In a caption to a picture of a Ural truck in the hands of Afghanistan Mujahedin ( I believe ) forces. This is the only reference I have to the use of the designation M21 on a Ural truck however, and it might just as well be misleading. Isn´t the M21 car a GAZ by the way ?

[Aufklarung]

Hi Yngwie J.
I don't want to re-direct Punk_Waffens thread too much but yes you are correct in that it was really a GAZ. The popular or model name was Volga.
http://www.gaz21.net/en/gaz21/historia.php

I'm positive this is not what P_W was talking about though.

regards
A

[Jack Nisley]

Yngwie, the M21 Ural truck, might that have been the BM21 mobile rocket launcher??

The only M20 (M21?) I have been able to find is the M20 Utility Car I originally mentioned.

Punk_Waffen, only other suggestion I have is spend some time back at the library. Sorry can't help more.

Jack Nisley

[Von_Mannteufel]

there is a transport american M20 3 axled truck indeed.

[Yngwie J.]

Aufklarung, my err. Explains why I couldn´t tell the GAZ and the Volga apart though.

Jack Nisley, the BM21 was used by the Soviets in Afghanistan so it could of course have been one with the rocket launchers removed. It looked like a Ural 375 open troop transport, or something very similar indeed. But as I wrote earlier, whoever wrote the caption might have been wrong.

This M21 has turned in to quite the enigma, so I´ll second your suggestion to send Punk_Waffen back to the library to find out more about the identity of this vehicle. I think he owes this much to us by now.

Yngwie

[Punk_Waffen]

there is a transport american M20 3 axled truck indeed.

Thats the one i want i do believe!

[Punk_Waffen]

Well ill try to get to the library today actually so i dont bug you people out of your minds while you try to figure out the answer. Ill post specs and everything once i get it!